Then don't turn it into one.Originally Posted by Laava
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Then don't turn it into one.
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Yep, like it.
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As long as there's a lot more done about the mistreatment of those poor Robinson choppers...
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Kingswoods get a pass. It's like how it's ok to have an inline 4 if it's in a superbike or greater.
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hell yeah, i would be in to that, bent axles don't slow ya down eff all, broken ones on the other hand are a different kettle of fish.
bulldogging a bull to get the fucker away from the youngstock is a hell of a lot of fun, especially when its wet and on a hill side and the fucker sends ya sideways. gets the dander up it does
Highway Biker
This is an interesting topic.
I’m an ex Auckland person [and an accountant by trade] who moved to a very rural location in the Far North just over 6 years ago. I was asked by my new neighbour if I could act as auditor for the local rodeo club as they needed one. I agreed to do this and have now attended a number of rodeo events plus the organising committee’s meetings for about 5 years.
The local rodeo club runs two events a year – one is part of the National Championship and one is a fund raising local event to help cover the financial losses that the National event makes.
So looking at the National event first:
Firstly – I can only speak about what I have seen for myself at the events that I have attended.
MPI and NZRCA both have rules that apply to animal welfare and the club is required to have an animal welfare person and a vet at the event at all times.
The Open grade bucking bulls and bronco’s are all supplied [at a pretty high cost] for the event – the animals are all trained over reasonably long periods of time, are trucked to the event and pastured. The animals are ALL Vet checked before being taken into the chutes and readied for the competition. The animals that I have seen at this stage are all very docile. But when the cowboy is on the animal and the gates open all hell breaks loose. A successful ride is 8 seconds long. If the cowboy doesn’t get to 8 seconds the ride doesn’t count. Most don’t last 8 seconds. Many times I have watched the cowboy get thrown and been bemused by the fact that the horse or bull immediately stops bucking and heads for the exit chute which is where their dinner is. Things do sometimes go wrong and that is pretty obvious – at that point the safety guys inside the arena [on foot and on horseback as appropriate] try and safeguard the rider first and the animal second.
The calves that are part of the various roping events are all specified as to size and weight with minimum and maximums. These specifications are all part of the rules of competition.
At my local rodeo local farmers supply these animals from their own stock. The animals are run through the full process of a rodeo a number of times BEFORE the national event. So they get loaded into the chutes, released and run in as close to a straight line as possible across the arena and then out the exit gate. Animals that don’t want to leave the chute, can’t run in a straight line or won’t head out through the open exit gate easily aren’t used. In most calf roping events 8 out of 10 animals don’t get roped by the cowboy[s] and simply get to run across the arena. And out the exit gate. When the cowboy[s] do get a proper “catch” with their rope the vast majority are a simple throw onto the loose sand of the arena, tied and after the allotted time period has elapsed the animals are released.
Do things go wrong – sometimes but not often. At the events that I have attended so far all of the calves have been returned to the local farmer intact. The animals are all vet checked before the event and afterwards as well.
The barrel racing ladies use their own horses and don’t chase anything. Their events are simply against the clock.
The arena that the local club uses is part of the local A & P Association saleyards so all of the races, pens, chutes etc. are all permanent items and are used every month as part of the normal animal sales processes.
The second event is much lower key – the Club hires a lower grade [which generally means that they are smaller in physical size] of Bucking stock as there are no National riders attending. But the same rules apply to the welfare of the stock. So a vet there all of the time and an animal welfare officer as well.
If the kids are having a go at the bull riding [not necessarily bucking bulls] there are specific weights for both the size of the kids and the size of the animals that they are allowed to ride. So no big kids on small animals and no small kids on big animals.
Again all of the animals used, other than the bucking animals, are all from local farmers and are returned after their day at the rodeo.
Recent rule changes mean that it is no longer legal to stick 10 sheep into the arena with a ribbon tied around their necks, add 20 kids under 10 years of age and the 10 kids that get a ribbon get a bag of lollies. So the Club don’t do that any more.
The emphasis at this event is lower key and there are a heap of non rodeo events.
Will rodeo be “killed off” in the future? Probably. The way that social media works these days means that anything sensational [and the badder the better] is around the world instantly. And there are only about 250,000 country based people left in NZ. And 4,250,000 urban, town and city people so you do the maths. Is rodeo cruel and inhumane? Is the treatment of animals at a rodeo inappropriate? Everyone has different opinions and what you may accept may not be acceptable to me. And vice versa.
In some ways, motorcycling may well face the same sort of problem in the future. Too much bad publicity, too many costs being imposed on the general public from accidents, too many anti-social motorcycle based events, too many police chases and so on. And riding a motorcycle can result in death if things go wrong. Just as death can result at a rodeo.
My motorcycle life has seen me attend, witness or have knowledge of far more deaths and serious injuries than my relatively short time at rodeo has. But then there are more motorcycle riders than there are rodeo cowboys.
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And as I pointed out earlier, motorcyclists partake in motorcycling of their own free will.
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rbgiafp! dander! what a word!
Hardcore Biker
With over 20 years of mustering in the high country and hill country (early 70's to the mid 90's) I can answer some questions.
I was involved in the Millars flat rodeo for six years as a helper and often as a pick up rider, for the rider to climb onto my quarter horse directly off the bronc if they made the 8 seconds, they buck because they have a bucking strap around their flank, my job was to release the strap (seat belt buckle with leather boot lace tied on it) they are not trained to buck, they are just wild horses, good buckers are kept for the next year and hopeless ones are not. And clearing the arena of horses and bulls etc was part of the job.
The bulls we used were braemar bulls (supplied)and had names the cowboys knew and in some cases feared. The bulls had a bucking rope tied in a special way around their flank ( a good yank would release it)
Scary shit when one of those bulls comes at you and your horse still bucking. Getting kicked by a bronc or bull was a very real danger when trying to release the bucking rope or strap ( And it happened more than once)
Take your hat off for the clowns, for how they protect the bull riders once on the ground.
The horses we used lived in the back blocks of the high country and came in just for the rodeo then released again.
Hope this helps
flashg
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I may be the only one, but there's a real fucken easy way to not find yourself in that situation. see if you can spot it...
Highway Biker
You talk a heinous amount of BULLshit
Hardcore Biker
im not reading this entire thread can someone pls give me a summary?
is scatman an animal loving vegetarian?
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Four legs good, two legs bad...
Loud and Uncouth
Meh, your opinion don't count fer nuthin' but glad to be a blight anyway!
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