Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

The only returns Science should be interested in is knowledge.

And even negative tests can add to knowledge.

Please explain how time, as a resource, is limited.

The only returns Science should be interested in is knowledge.

And even negative tests can add to knowledge.

Well the reason I asked was, I'm trying to figure out why the Institute of Medicine would say something as spectacularly unscientific as "no further testing should be done" with regards to investigating any sort of link between vaccines and neurological disorders.

'Cos I'm assuming that the correct answer to my question is that Science is never 'done'.

(But I was giving him another chance to think he was educating me. It seems to give him a boost).

So lets use an analogy
You are doing a WOF
you give the head bearing a yank and cheek for notchiness yes.
After satisfying yourself they are in decent condition you move on.

But what you are suggesting is that even if they pass the test.
You should then remove the forks disassemble the steering head
Degrease the bearing look at then under an Electron microscope for possible pitting and micro-abrasion.
Measure each ball/roller with a Micrometer.
Then send samples away to check to see the depth of hardness on the race and rollers/balls
Do a check on the bearing numbers in a FBI fraud database to check if they are not cheap knock offs.
ETC etc etc........

[Ocean1]

So where do npos and grants come in if they don't pay taxes etc as my definition states commercial entities do?

They indulge in commercial activities.

Not paying income tax is easy enough for any commercial entity: don't make a profit.

The only entities I'm aware of that don't pay any taxes by default are churches and some charities.

Which are you suggesting should be responsible for scientific research?

[Katman]

So lets use an analogy
You are doing a WOF
you give the head bearing a yank and cheek for notchiness yes.
After satisfying yourself they are in decent condition you move on.

But what you are suggesting is that even if they pass the test.
You should then remove the forks disassemble the steering head
Degrease the bearing look at then under an Electron microscope for possible pitting and micro-abrasion.
Measure each ball roller with a Micrometer.
Send samples away to check to see the depth of hardness on the race and rollers/balls
Do a check on the bearing numbers in a FBI fraud database to check if they are not cheap knock offs.
ETC etc etc........

The sheer stupidity of that 'analogy' would do TDL proud.

[Zedder]

They indulge in commercial activities.

Not paying income tax is easy enough for any commercial entity: don't make a profit.

The only entities I'm aware of that don't pay any taxes by default are churches and some charities.

Which are you suggesting should be responsible for scientific research?

Commercial activities by your definition.

Try the Cancer Society of NZ, a charity and a research organisation.

[husaberg]

The sheer stupidity of that 'analogy' would do TDL proud.

I will conclude then that you don't grasp the concept of rational thought and logic then.
Comparing my anology of your idiotic suggestions To TDL rational highly logical thought process doesn't worry me one iota.

[TheDemonLord]

The sheer stupidity of that 'analogy' would do TDL proud.

There is only one source of Sheer Stupidity here, and I'm replying to it.

[Ocean1]

Commercial activities by your definition.

Try the Cancer Society of NZ, a charity and a research organisation.

If they exchange goods or services for money or vice versa they're a commercial entity. Period.

And good on 'em. Like I said Your tax exemption criteria is completely irrelevant.

[Zedder]

If they exchange goods or services for money or vice versa they're a commercial entity. Period.

And good on 'em. Like I said Your tax exemption criteria is completely irrelevant.

Hardly relevant if it's not a primary activity to make profit.

Lol, so Cancer Society NZ isn't a not for profit and a research company then?

[bogan]

A question for you....

Do you think Science ever reaches a point where it can say it's 'done'? (Done as in concluded)

Of course not.

Now don't go using that as an excuse to just decide what you want to believe, then assume that must be the case cos science isn't done yet

(But I was giving him another chance to think he was educating me. It seems to give him a boost).

Of course it does, the ignorant are such a burden on society; I've ranted about this many times, so of course educating them makes me feel good.

The sheer stupidity of that 'analogy' would do TDL proud.

It's actually a pretty good analogy, way better than TDLs normally are, and a pretty good post compared to the other drivel husaberg has been spouting of late.

[Katman]

It's actually a pretty good analogy, way better than TDLs normally are, and a pretty good post compared to the other drivel husaberg has been spouting of late.

Ok, I'll spell out why it's a fucking retarded analogy.

The consequences of me missing a microscopic speck of oxidation on a steering head bearing amounts to zero.

Failure to detect a retro-virus in a vaccine could have consequences that affect millions.

[bogan]

Ok, I'll spell out why it's a fucking retarded analogy.

The consequences of me missing a microscopic speck of oxidation on a steering head bearing amounts to zero.

Failure to detect a retro-virus in a vaccine could have consequences that affect millions.

What if it is the start of cage failure, leading to the steering head locking up, sounds consequential...

The focus of the analogy was also clearly that there is a certainty-to-time ratio that is more practicable to aim for than an absolute certainty one. Especially considering we just fucking outlined the science is never done, so absolute certainty isn't even a thing that is practical to strive for.

[Katman]

What if it is the start of cage failure, leading to the steering head locking up, sounds consequential...

Seriously dude, you should probably stick to manufacturing Flintstones pop-up stands.

[bogan]

Seriously dude, you should probably stick to manufacturing Flintstones pop-up stands.

What, was coming up with outlandashly unlikely scenarios ending in a 'bad thing' not the aim of the game? I mean, I've seen tapered roller bearings with cracked cages fairly often, have you ever seen a harmful retrovirus in a vaccine?

What's the flintstone's pop up stand reference to anyway? I would have thought stone/wood don't lend themselves to pop-up stands too well...

[Katman]

.......have you ever seen a harmful retrovirus in a vaccine?

Not personally - I'm relying on the word of scientists.

[bogan]

Not personally - I'm relying on the word of scientists.

Source?...