Go Pros create unsafe riders

[EJK]

...unoffical practical licence test...

Why do I feel like that's a heavy understatement.

[FJRider]

... so you can determine whether the fault lies with his riding e.g. speeding or the fault of other motorists not seeing him or giving way.

If you are unsure if another motorist has seen you and will give way to you in accordance with the rules in the Land Transport act ... do you ...

a. Continue on your intended line of travel and at the same speed as you have right of way.

or

b. Slow down and prepare to take avoiding action if required.

[Moi]

If you are unsure if another motorist has seen you and will give way to you in accordance with the rules in the Land Transport act ... do you ...

a. Continue on your intended line of travel and at the same speed as you have right of way.

or

b. Slow down and prepare to take avoiding action if required.

Oh, gee... that's a tough one... I'll need a moment or two to think about... hope no dog runs in front while I do... gee mate, can I have a third option? I'm just so confused...

[FJRider]

Oh, gee... that's a tough one... I'll need a moment or two to think about... hope no dog runs in front while I do... gee mate, can I have a third option? I'm just so confused...

In my opinion ... if option b. is not used ...you have no reason to moan about high ACC levies. Because if you take no action to avoid (possible) accidents ... you are just as responsible as the other driver(s) ... for the end results.

[Moi]

In my opinion ... if option b. is not used ...you have no reason to moan about high ACC levies. Because if you take no action to avoid (possible) accidents ... you are just as responsible as the other driver(s) ... for the end results.

I would totally agree - total lack of defensive driving or riding.

It amazes me the number of drivers, and riders, who "charge on regardless" in situations where if it turns to custard you'll be the prune in the custard. One that springs to mind are drivers who drive through supermarket and shopping centre carparks at speed, especially when there are children about which is often most of the time.

[Moi]

You always assume there is a time lag to swerve, brake etc to avoid a crash. Well let me educate you there is not always a time lag otherwise there would be no crashes now would there?

You "make time for yourself" by slowing down, positioning your self for your best possible view ahead and best possible position to be seen by others, thinking "what if?", being aware of what is going on around you and so on...

[EJK]

You always assume there is a time lag to swerve, brake etc to avoid a crash. Well let me educate you there is not always a time lag otherwise there would be no crashes now would there?

You probably aren't looking or observing far enough if you don't find space of time to swerve

[rastuscat]

You probably aren't looking or observing far enough if you don't find space of time to swerve

You sound like you've done one of my courses EJ

[rastuscat]

We teach people emergency braking on our courses.

Then we spend the rest of the day showing people how to avoid having to emergency brake.

Rarely do I ever have to apply the brakes heavily. As I don't ride like the world owes me courtesy.

[nzspokes]

You probably aren't looking or observing far enough if you don't find space of time to swerve

Sadly this ls the core of her problem.

[FJRider]

Thats why I slow down for bends unlike some on here as you never know the state of whoever is coming the other way. As for doubt whether another motorist is going to give way or not thats a tricky one as by slowing down to give way to them you run the risk of being rear ended by anyone following.

If you see a possible issue ahead ... check your mirrors and flash you brake lights.It will be an early warning for them too. Following too closely may cause you to rear end them. Watch vehicles in front of the one ahead of you for brake lights or indicators.

Treat all vehicles getting closer to you (from the front or behind) within 100 meters ... as being out to kill you ... as one of them actually might.

Assume vehicles parked on either side of the road are about to attempt a U-turn. Do not cross to the opposite side of the road to pass vehicles parked on your side ... they will not be looking in their mirrors for vehicles on that side of the road.

Let vehicles that want to overtake you ... overtake you. Possible road-rage if you police their intent by blocking them from passing. Car vs bike ... you will lose.

Listen to the warning voices in your head ... but ... if those voices are saying KILL KILL KILL ... change your mode of transport. If you never hear any warning voices ... take your partner on your next ride. You WILL hear some then ...

[FJRider]

We teach people emergency braking on our courses.

Then we spend the rest of the day showing people how to avoid having to emergency brake.

It's a bit like STD's ... prevention is a lot less stressful (and painful) than the cures ...

Rarely do I ever have to apply the brakes heavily. As I don't ride like the world owes me courtesy.

Have you no stick-on reflective panels ... leftover from your last employer ..

[Luckylegs]

...it's a bit frustrating telling someone they failed, and trying to let them know in an educational way.

Kinda like replying to cassina really innit

[rastuscat]

It's a bit like STD's ... prevention is a lot less stressful (and painful) than the cures ...



Have you no stick-on reflective panels ... leftover from your last employer ..

Funny. I wear gear and ride a bike totally different from the Popo colours.

It's an R1200RT, dark blue. My helmet and suit could be argued to be similar, though my usual jacket is red, and my helmet white. I wear a company yellow vest.

Yet frequently people ditch their cellphones when i arrived next to them. Amusing.

[nzspokes]

I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

No thats them reversing into you.