MotoGP 2017

[Autech]

From start of 2015 to now, ie tha last 3 years he has only won 12 races ..........
here is MM's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_M%C3%A1rquez
here is Doohans record
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Doohan



As for the other Honda riders, pretty sure Pedro would have the same inconsistant results on any bike.
How he keeps his works ride, i would say has more to do with sponsorship politics than with talent or results.
IMO Stick Viñales or Dovi on a Honda and there would be day light to second place.

Haha, fuck off. Dovi used to have a Honda remember but someone faster was always ahead of him... Pedrosa.
And as for results, look up career stats if you're keen on throwing them around and a certain Pedrosa will be up there ahead of all your old fart heros. Rant over.

Here's one to piss off Crasher, I reckon if MM was on the Yamaha he'd get his butt kicked. He has to ride in a certain way which the Honda does for him, he's shown no ability ever to adapt his riding style since he's got on the Honda, he's kept his wild Moto2 styles and honed them to perfection. If he jumped on the Ducati he'd be gone in the distance though for sure.

Whoever wins this year in the current climate will be the best rider we've ever seen, shits fucking close!

They're all awesome, whoever is awesomer is down to your own bias. For example if they were all to jump on identical 250's who do you think would win?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's one to piss off Crasher, I reckon if MM was on the Yamaha he'd get his butt kicked.

Doesn't piss me off in the slightest mate. I tend to agree.

[Dadpole]

Whoever wins this year in the current climate will be the best rider we've ever seen, shits fucking close!

OR, whoever wins rode most conservatively, or was the luckiest, or was the least conspired against. With things this close, the smallest thing can turn a championship.

At least we will have something to argue about for the next four weeks. Go Dovi....

[Autech]

Doesn't piss me off in the slightest mate. I tend to agree.

Still doesn't mean he's not one of the best riders we have ever seen though. A quick look to see how his brother is coping compared to him shows how fucking good he really is. Only reason I fell off his fanwagon was his antics in Moto2 where he was running pricks off the track. That and crashing into my golden boy won him no favours.

He'll beat Rossi's stats, of that I'm sure. Only concern I have in regards to that is his method of crashing before the race to find the limits, one day one of those little crashes is going to hurt him a heck of a lot. His Mum must have fucked a leprechaun though as his luck is beyond belief, not getting injured is something he shares with Rossi. One of his major strengths seems to be his teams trust and love of him, their elation with him is sensational to watch and he brings them results. That can't be overlooked when looking at his performances.

DP for champion 2017.

KTM will move up Olivera in the next few years to sit alongside either Pol Espagaro or Zarco, that's my guess anyways.

[Doppleganger]

If only Vale had stayed on in France Aye ;-)

[pritch]

Here's one to piss off Crasher,

I'm not so sure. Look at the problem the Yamaha factory riders are having with their two latest frames, one suits MV, one suits Rossi. There are some interesting if vague comments from Folger and Vinales in David Emmett's Sachsenring roundup: https://motomatters.com/analysis/201...und_up_on.html

Pedro is very fortunate to have his ride. With Marquez arriving to partner Stoner there would have been no place for Pedro. Then to the surprise of everyone including probably Honda, Stoner announced his retirement leaving a seat vacant. Still, I've sorta got used to Pedro being there and with MM being who he is there has been no urgent need for a replacement.

[Autech]

OR, whoever wins rode most conservatively, or was the luckiest, or was the least conspired against. With things this close, the smallest thing can turn a championship.

At least we will have something to argue about for the next four weeks. Go Dovi....

Pedro is very fortunate to have his ride. With Marquez arriving to partner Stoner there would have been no place for Pedro. Then to the surprise of everyone including probably Honda, Stoner announced his retirement leaving a seat vacant. Still, I've sorta got used to Pedro being there and with MM being who he is there has been no urgent need for a replacement.

Lets play the stats game to see why he has his seat:

All stats are taking into account only the premier class and broken down to bite sized chunks for easy digestion.

Pedrosa:
Won: 1 out 6.3
Podium: 1 out of 1.76

Rossi:
Won: 1 out of 3.34
Podium: 1 out of 1.57

Marquez's stats for the prem class:
Won 1 out of 2.6
Podium: 1 out of 1.4

Disclaimer: my math may be totally wrong here.

Rossi's stats are mental when you think about it, granted he did get a fairly easy run for competition for a while there he's been out there smashing it for a long time, 297 starts in the premier class...

Marquez's are very impressive considering he's had to beat Rossi, Lorenzo and Dani. He's on track though if he can keep it up.

Dani's show that he's had some good years and some bad but even though his luck is shit his bike is in front of the camera on the podium and he's been close to winning the championship so many times that they've kept him. Miller, Crutchlow and Rabat couldn't do what he does.
Try as I might I can't find anything online pointing to Marquez replacing him. Just this which says who Honda thought would win in 13:
https://www.redbull.com/nz-en/marque...sa-and-lorenzo
Considering some of his most competitive years were around then I can't see where you get that from. If anything he was lucky to keep his seat 2014 and 15 after his arm pump issues, yet Honda kept him on board for another few years yet as he's there man and they'd rather have him on a Honda than on another factory machine giving Marquez hell (imagine if he'd grabbed Vinales seat when he was messing them about...). He's a championship contender once again this year after all after a few years out of it, Dani is the man, don't diss him bro!

[husaberg]

Because I know you love stats.


Youngest Spanish rider to take a pole position: 16 years, 88 days (France 2009)
Only Spanish rider to win 2 titles back to back in Premier Class

You're right. He's got fuck all records to his name.

Yes i do love stats these two were very funny.
We should continue to debate who is greater when MM wins a few more championships on other makes and is still on the podium when hes pushing 40 then

Haha, fuck off. Dovi used to have a Honda remember but someone faster was always ahead of him... Pedrosa.
And as for results, look up career stats if you're keen on throwing them around and a certain Pedrosa will be up there ahead of all your old fart heros. Rant over.

As i recall Dovi finished ahead of pedro in his last year at honda.
Hush now about old farts, Pedro isn't fit to shine Doohans boots, let alone be mentioned in the same sentence.

Pedros 11 years on a works Honda in the major class without winning a title has to be a all time record.
In a similar period Mick won 5 (Should have been six)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes i do love stats these two were very funny.
We should continue to debate who is greater when MM wins a few more championships on other makes and is still on the podium when hes pushing 40 then


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Well, he's won titles on a Derbi, a Suter, and a Honda...so not going too badly I guess. Rossi has won titles on Honda's and Yamahas and Aprillias... and MM wont have to wait until he's 40 (not that Rossi is 40 either) to beat Rossi's records. Well, the very few he still owns anyway.

[husaberg]

Well, he's won titles on a Derbi, a Suter, and a Honda...so not going too badly I guess. Rossi has won titles on Honda's and Yamahas and Aprillias... and MM wont have to wait until he's 40 (not that Rossi is 40 either) to beat Rossi's records. Well, the very few he still owns anyway.

In the major class crasher, he needs to prove he can win on either Honda or Yamaha in the major class.

[Crasherfromwayback]

In the major class crasher, he needs to prove he can win on either Honda or Yamaha in the major class.

I don't think he has to prove anything of the sort. And like Doohan, why leave if they give you everything you want? I doubt very much MM's ego is anywhere near the size of Rossi's. So having the need to prove himself on diff equipment may be something he never feels the need to do. Won't stop him winning more titles and breaking//setting more records though. And I'd best not mention Stoner, as Old Eel gets hot under the collar. But if he'd stuck around...

[husaberg]

I don't think he has to prove anything of the sort. And like Doohan, why leave if they give you everything you want? I doubt very much MM's ego is anywhere near the size of Rossi's. So having the need to prove himself on diff equipment may be something he never feels the need to do.

A lot of people didn't rate doohan as a great for just that reason.
Eddie Lawson did it back to back, as did Rossi. Ago did it as well. (whoops Ago didn't one year apart)

II'd best not mention Stoner, as Old Eel gets hot under the collar. But if he'd stuck around...

You would be having his babies? seriously
Stoners not arround, it was clearly too tough for him.Time to let him go , hes gone.
Rossi's still there though, toughing it out.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You would be having his babies? seriously
Stoners not arround, it was clearly too tough for him.Time to let him go , hes gone.
Rossi's still there though, toughing it out.

Lol. And you want Rossi's? Better chance of that seeing as you're both homos. Toughing it out is one thing, winning titles is another. Rossi has won how many since Stoner quit the party?

[husaberg]

Lol. And you want Rossi's? Better chance of that seeing as you're both homos. Toughing it out is one thing, winning titles is another. Rossi has won how many since Stoner quit the party?

Hes won a shit load more races than Stoner has............or ever will...........
both before and after stoner

[onearmedbandit]

Hahaha this is some good shit. My dad is bigger than yours. Well my dad would kick your dads arse. Yeah well if my dad was still around he'd kick all your dads arses. Yeah but my dad is older and is still toughing it out. Yeah well my dad has more fight records than yours.