Stupid World

[bogan]

whaddaya gonna do? vote for the other ones???

stupid cunt.

Well since you turned up, how are you with debt? does most of your benefit get clipped off for fines and unpaid loans before you get it each week?

Quoted for emphasis.

and where would we be without the fan club...

[mashman]

As Cities Grow Worldwide, So Do the Numbers of Homeless... rockstar economy, er, yeah but nah.

So many issues like that seem to sidestep the bigger issue, population growth, how long should this go on unchecked? and the other side issue shown in their sob-story, should we be more active in curbing the poor decision making of welfare beneficiaries?

Overpopulation is the lazy capitalists excuse. The problem, as an awful lot of people have been saying for a very long time, is money and the pathetic culture that it creates. We can grow food in the desert. We can generate power from the desert. We can generate power from the mountains etc... yet it's the logistics that money enforces that prevent these things from happening. And while we piss about deciding whether we should, because we know that we can, we waste even more resources that could actually go into turning the entire planet into a sustainable heaven were people only have to work a few hours a week instead of having to wait for 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70 years to get to a point where they're allowed to enjoy more free time.

This is a long read, but it's a damned good read. It's well referenced too.

[sidecar bob]

And while we piss about deciding whether we should, because we know that we can, we waste even more resources that could actually go into turning the entire planet into a sustainable heaven were people only have to work a few hours a week instead of having to wait for 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70 years to get to a point where they're allowed to enjoy more free time.
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Nobody has to wait until even 65 to enjoy a little more free time.
It's the ingrained belief that you can only retire at the age that the govt is prepared to offer you a pittance for your efforts over the years that keeps people working until that age.
It's the biggest con job ever.
If they cancelled the pension, people would get off their arses & make shit happen & surprise the shit outta themselves to discover that they had done well enough by age 50 to support themselves comfortably for the rest of their lives.

[Ocean1]

Hey, they've got as much right to be homeless as anyone else, leave the poor cunts alone.

[bogan]

As Cities Grow Worldwide, So Do the Numbers of Homeless... rockstar economy, er, yeah but nah.



Overpopulation is the lazy capitalists excuse. The problem, as an awful lot of people have been saying for a very long time, is money and the pathetic culture that it creates. We can grow food in the desert. We can generate power from the desert. We can generate power from the mountains etc... yet it's the logistics that money enforces that prevent these things from happening. And while we piss about deciding whether we should, because we know that we can, we waste even more resources that could actually go into turning the entire planet into a sustainable heaven were people only have to work a few hours a week instead of having to wait for 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70 years to get to a point where they're allowed to enjoy more free time.

This is a long read, but it's a damned good read. It's well referenced too.

And blaming money for everything is the Lazy stupid worlder's excuse. Seriously, if money is so bad, and so much more can be done without it, just do it already, you (and those awful lot of people to which you refer) are the only road block to doing that NOW.
Population growth certainly is creating issues of resource scarcity, and putting increased load on the supply chains for those resources. Another option is to simply limit those resources as per communism, greatly simplifying their supply, and greatly lowering the volume; now if that could be done without affecting choice it'd be a goer, but barring a large uptake of subscription model business, I don't see that happening.

[Akzle]

Well since you turned up, how are you with debt? does most of your benefit get clipped off for fines and unpaid loans before you get it each week?
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no to all three. but thanks for asking.

all currency is debt. btw. dumbass.

[bogan]

no to all three. but thanks for asking.

all currency is debt. btw. dumbass.

Good for you.

Just as all debts are assets, and all assets are things, and all fligs are florgs, etc etc. Sometimes, words are actually use for communicating, rather than miscommunicating...

[Akzle]

Good for you.

Just as all debts are assets, and all assets are things, and all fligs are florgs, etc etc. Sometimes, words are actually use for communicating, rather than miscommunicating...>

i'm pretty sure we're all clear on the "stupid cunt" and "dumbass" as it applies to you... which just leaves all those other things you're unclear about. but, stupid is as stupid does and willful ignorance etcetera.

[Katman]

i'm pretty sure we're all clear on the "stupid cunt" and "dumbass" as it applies to you....

Quoted just in case anyone isn't clear on it.

[bogan]

i'm pretty sure we're all clear on the "stupid cunt" and "dumbass" as it applies to you... which just leaves all those other things you're unclear about. but, stupid is as stupid does and willful ignorance etcetera.

Quoted just in case anyone isn't clear on it.

Put some fucking effort in guys, some of the insults on here actually used to be amusing, this shit is just sad.

[mashman]

Nobody has to wait until even 65 to enjoy a little more free time.
It's the ingrained belief that you can only retire at the age that the govt is prepared to offer you a pittance for your efforts over the years that keeps people working until that age.
It's the biggest con job ever.
If they cancelled the pension, people would get off their arses & make shit happen & surprise the shit outta themselves to discover that they had done well enough by age 50 to support themselves comfortably for the rest of their lives.

It's the lack of money that prevents people from retiring earlier. Not everyone can earn enough to throw thousands into their pension every month, because they simply don't get paid thousands per month. And the only reason that some do have thousands to put away each month is that there are those who don't. That's one of the con jobs. The belief that one can do it, therefore so can another. Yet not everyone can be CEO or even a manager as there simply aren't that number of positions. And even if there were, who's gonna actually do the work?
If they cancelled the pension, which is going to happen BTW (if only to be replaced by a UBI), then there wouldn't be enough jobs and therefore not enough money to go around without causing all sorts of inflationary issues... which by default then affects the value of the $ that the richer people have retied on and so on and so forth. So nah, what you're saying is demonstrably unfeasible for a fair chunk of any population on the basis that they don't get paid enough to put the $ away required to retire comfortably. I managed it at 44, but then I was paid quite handsomely, to such an extent that I can't even claim support from the govt for another 20+ years lol.

[mashman]

Hey, they've got as much right to be homeless as anyone else, leave the poor cunts alone.

Thanks for the almost giggle Milton Mises Smith.

[Ocean1]

Thanks for the almost giggle Milton Mises Smith.

Well, you know I'm all about choice.

Lazy cunts choose to live under a bridge who the fuck are you to interfere?

[mashman]

And blaming money for everything is the Lazy stupid worlder's excuse. Seriously, if money is so bad, and so much more can be done without it, just do it already, you (and those awful lot of people to which you refer) are the only road block to doing that NOW.
Population growth certainly is creating issues of resource scarcity, and putting increased load on the supply chains for those resources. Another option is to simply limit those resources as per communism, greatly simplifying their supply, and greatly lowering the volume; now if that could be done without affecting choice it'd be a goer, but barring a large uptake of subscription model business, I don't see that happening.

Not even close. As I've mentioned before, if your society will give me everything I want for free, then I will live that way. Your society won't allow it without $. So your assertion is moronic and shows absolutely no understanding of how an RBE works. In other words, if all of the RBE advocates got together to attempt living that way, they couldn't afford the land required nor the technology to facilitate that way of living. The only thing that's scarce is money. What choice? The choice to shaft future generations, coz any way you slice that that's exactly what you're saying and your constant choice not to accept that fact underlines that choice. Good for you.

[mashman]

Well, you know I'm all about choice.

No, I don't. Is that a recent change?