a lot will depend on how old it is and who applied it and whether there is a cavity.Originally Posted by EJK
Also there was a lot of fake AAC panel bought into christchurch after the earthquakes: it was labelled hebel but wasnt hebel.
"channellling the Pleideans"
a lot will depend on how old it is and who applied it and whether there is a cavity.
Also there was a lot of fake AAC panel bought into christchurch after the earthquakes: it was labelled hebel but wasnt hebel.
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"channellling the Pleideans"
I had a guy buy a house with a valuation of 1.2M his year for under $700k because it was the classic "leaky" home like your no 2. He and his builder are going to re-clad it (with a cavity and using Hebel AAC) and create some eaves and probably replace the window joinery. He reckons total will be under $200k, and once that is done (with proper plans, documentation, a decent builder and code compliance) he will be able to get $1.5 for it.
When he was looking at it, they very carefully moisture tested every exterior wall in multiple locations high and low, for obvious reasons. No problem so they are pretty confident the structre is sound... even if it isnt, all the cladding will be off, so no drama to fix.
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Rasta Ratskins
Yep, costs and quotes swing wildly in every direction, these purchases are great for those who can be realistic about making them good and a nightmare for others...
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Bogeyman
I wondered about the competence of the architects involved in some of those chili bins. A friend owned a company making handrails and stuff, and he was asked to make handrails to fit on top of 600mm high parapets around an internal balcony. The parapet was 100% faced and capped with styrene/plaster. He came to me to design and make spacers to penetrate the styrene and mount directly onto the underlying treewood.
I declined. I convinced him to decline the job too. But I mean, what the fuck? How did the architect imagine that was going to be accomplished? It's not as if you were ever going to get away with no handrail.
I eventually got dragged into a meeting with the architect, the builder and the owner. In spite of my outrageous quote for just that meeting. That was my first encounter with an architect with absolutely zero engineering insight. Before that I'd assumed they were all basically civil engineers with artistic pretensions.
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Rasta Ratskins
Close, they are artists with engineering aspirations. It is always conceptual, some of them have the nouse to actually design, for instance a house, and draw the plans etc. but most employ a draughtsman and or engineer to make their concepts happen. This is how they are trained, I don't think engineering comes into it.. Before that I'd assumed they were all basically civil engineers with artistic pretensions.
And yes the chilly bin thing has been one of the worst things to happen to building initially. Now they have it under control but it is still pretty awful. The AAC thing is completely different and is essentially the same as a brick veneer.
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one placenta
...architects...I've built architecturally designed homes and run across arrogant wanks who wont entertain the thought that a mere prick with a hammer could see something that they have not designed correctly and will get very shirty or even aggro...I've worked with some who are more than happy to run through designs before they commit to them, knowing that the prick with the hammer has thirty or more years experience than them...it's a bit of a human thing...some humans are cunts and others are not...I was called a 'braindead colonial', by one English architect and after consulting with the site overseer, was told to carry on, after all it was a spec house owned by the architect...I carried on knowing that what I was doing was wasting time and very wrong...when I had set out the floors and hung them where I had said they were wrong we called the architect to view the point of concern...it still took him five minutes to 'discover' that the floors were running through the bottom of the windows by a mere 350mm...my silence and deadpan expression probably came across as the demeanour of a 'braindead colonial', but it was masking great joy that this cunt was squirming...he tried for five minutes to will it right by staring at the plan and muttering that I must have done it wrong...just one of many architectural problems built into plans by wankers who may have never been on a jobsite without their 'Gucci', shoes on...some are great ...
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Yes, with the cladding off it makes things "simpler". Not sure about "no drama" though.
If you discover shit happening in the framework, it gets exponentially bigger in a short space of time.
Agree with other's comments re architects...
Pretentious wankstains who have an subconscious desire to build monuments to themselves.
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"channellling the Pleideans"
Yeah. the difference here is the guy bought it to live in, so he is being super careful.
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Bogeyman
Don't bother with any tact or actual diplomacy here, guys.
Aye, I wasn't going to comment further but I was genuinely surprised to discover that architects were in fact people who drew pretty pictures, nothing more, purveyors of fashion.
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Forum whore
I live in a fairly "architectural" home.
It's fuckin lovely to live in, but some of the retardation is palpable.
Occasionally I want electrocute the electrician & drown the plumber.
You would have to live in it for a few months for most of it to dawn on you.
"channellling the Pleideans"
some are geniuses. Frank Lloyd Wright, John Neutra, Gehry, Eero Saarinen.Don't bother with any tact or actual diplomacy here, guys.
Aye, I wasn't going to comment further but I was genuinely surprised to discover that architects were in fact people who drew pretty pictures, nothing more, purveyors of fashion.
Having said that, their buildings are works of art and very difficult to live in. Also very maintenance intensive.
But, just as an example, you can thank Frank Lloyd Wright for, among other things (like Fallingwater) open plan living.
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"channellling the Pleideans"
This is my favourite house, by any architect, anywhere in the world: John Neutra's "Oyler House"
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Jo...w=1280&bih=616
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Oak Park, Chicago...
"channellling the Pleideans"
I really like the Hollyhock house (and a very innovative use of cast concrete) and the usonian houses - social housing kind of. Plus of course the Johnson building and some of those big commercial jobs.
We saw a movie a month or so back about Eero Saarinen and they spent a lot of time on the TWA terminal... which I think has been restored and is now a hotel. As a fan of the original THUNDERBIRDS, this really speaks to me:
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=sa...ksU7NKOkSwQBM:
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Charles Rennie Mackintosh...
Frank Lloyd Wright, like Mackintosh, designed the complete look...
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