OMG RIP here we go again etc

[nzspokes]

At the end he crashed ...

https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-42.6...7i13312!8i6656

LOL.

How could you not see something coming on that?

Cheers for posting.

[flashg]

As I recall ... he was exiting the Waiau bridge in north Canterbury when a car entered the bridge without checking/giving way for oncoming traffic. TOTALLY preventable.

You do realize a car could still be sitting in the township (you wouldn't see it) and leave while you're halfway across that bridge, and still come onto the bridge (you would have just seen him before he comes on) and take you out, before you got off the bridge ? Avoidable if the car gave way. Nowhere for a bike to go. Its a bridge I know well. Its a cunt heading north. You could give way to something thats not there, you'd die of old age. Its a bridge to be taken slowly especially as you near the north end.
Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. I lived up there. Cassina has you so wound up, You're spouting shit.

[AllanB]

If all those not at fault stayed off the roads just maybe all those at fault would crash into one another and kill themselves off leaving safer roads for those not at fault to go back on them.

Reckon there is a T-shirt in that!

[caspernz]

On a brighter note, I just been out watering my garden, including my pot plants. Reminded me of KB...not sure why

[granstar]

On a brighter note, I just been out watering my garden, including my pot plants. Reminded me of KB...not sure why

Cactuses and pansies?

[Graystone]

At last someone with a brain who knows what a one way bridge is and how you cant swerve on them. Yes I was heading north and was lucky to have cleared the bridge prior to impact otherwise I could have been shunted off. I was in a line of traffic so my speed was controlled by it. This FJ Rider turkey is the second person on here to say I could have avoided the crash the other turkey I debated it with perhaps a year ago called himself an IAM's instructor who said I could have done something to avoid it but even he could not think up what. These turkeys need to get some "not at fault crash experience" before they will ever make any sense.

In such situation an emergency stop is warranted, I find it a good exercise to practice these in car parks or deserted roads. Thus when you need it, you can stop in time and avoided such accidents entirely, but more importantly, by avoiding the accident you would also avoid the argument about whose fault it was!

[granstar]

At last someone with a brain who knows what a one way bridge is and how you cant swerve on them. Yes I was heading north and was lucky to have cleared the bridge prior to impact otherwise I could have been shunted off. I was in a line of traffic so my speed was controlled by it. This FJ Rider turkey is the second person on here to say I could have avoided the crash the other turkey I debated it with perhaps a year ago called himself an IAM's instructor who said I could have done something to avoid it but even he could not think up what. These turkeys need to get some "not at fault crash experience" before they will ever make any sense.

Turkeys at this time of year should lay low

[flashg]

In such situation an emergency stop is warranted, I find it a good exercise to practice these in car parks or deserted roads. Thus when you need it, you can stop in time and avoided such accidents entirely, but more importantly, by avoiding the accident you would also avoid the argument about whose fault it was!

Are you serious ? Stop in front of the car ? You'd be lucky if you saw it in time. If he fails to give way, stopping won't save you, you're fucked. Impact would be less, so you're less fucked. Still fucked.
Keyboard warriors talking about stuff they have no idea about.
Go visit the bridge, then come back and tell all.

[Graystone]

Are you serious ? Stop in front of the car ? You'd be lucky if you saw it in time. If he fails to give way, stopping won't save you, you're fucked. Impact would be less, so you're less fucked. Still fucked.
Keyboard warriors talking about stuff they have no idea about.
Go visit the bridge, then come back and tell all.

Speed kills, so stopping is safe. Just do that.

[flashg]

Speed kills, so stopping is safe. Just do that.

We are talking about a one way bridge, you stop, ( that halves the inpact) car doesn't, you're fucked, maybe half fucked. If I could draw a picture I would. Go visit the bridge and you'll know you haven't got a clue what you're typing about.

[eldog]

I would have been killed myself if I had been on a bike. I ended up going from a lowish sports coupe to a 4WD after that experience.
I tour in that mostly now.

whoa, whoa, stop. Can you clarify for us mere KBers

this bridge accident.

Where you or where you not the driver of a car? was it a bus? was it not a MOTORCYCLE?

[Akzle]

You are just as much a muppet as FJ Rider as I was coming to the end of a one way bridge (ever seen them?) and the guy coming around the bend thought it was 2 way. There was no time to emergency brake as he came around so fast. There was also no argument at the time as to whoes fault it was. Only muppets on here with no "not at fault" crash experience think it was both of our fault or only mine.

this is that crash where the vehicles in front of, and behind you, all managed to avoid crashing, but you didn't?
or is that a different crash?

you fuckwit.

[Graystone]

You are just as much a muppet as FJ Rider as I was coming to the end of a one way bridge (ever seen them?) and the guy coming around the bend thought it was 2 way. There was no time to emergency brake as he came around so fast. There was also no argument at the time as to whoes fault it was. Only muppets on here with no "not at fault" crash experience think it was both of our fault or only mine.

There is always time to brake. Fault is irrelevant.

We are talking about a one way bridge, you stop, ( that halves the inpact) car doesn't, you're fucked, maybe half fucked. If I could draw a picture I would. Go visit the bridge and you'll know you haven't got a clue what you're typing about.

Big sweeping right hander going into town there isn't it? I get that the bike can be obscured by the railings in that area, but there is no reason the oncoming car couldn't have been seen with enough time to stop, and yes that would have halved the impact, but it also give the at fault driver a lot more time to drop their speed. I'll go out on a limb and say old cassie was still carrying a lot of speed when it hit, probably more than the car.

[Graystone]

The bridge was not near a town. I was in a line of traffic so was at a speed controlled by the pace of that traffic which was not fast. The at fault driver may have had their vision obscured by vegetation which would have also obscured mine of him also. As I was carted away by ambulance I did not get to examine the scene for vision blocking vegitation though. I do remember looking at my headlight switch after impact and it was on so I had done my very best to make myself visable. For the next muppet that screws up in the same way into me I will hopefully be in my 4WD when it happens.

Did you try braking? It's a wonderful technique to avoid accidents.

[flashg]

There is always time to brake. Fault is irrelevant.



Big sweeping right hander going into town there isn't it? I get that the bike can be obscured by the railings in that area, but there is no reason the oncoming car couldn't have been seen with enough time to stop, and yes that would have halved the impact, but it also give the at fault driver a lot more time to drop their speed. I'll go out on a limb and say old cassie was still carrying a lot of speed when it hit, probably more than the car.

The road drops quite a lot once you're off the bridge, you'd see him before he sees you. Its an uphill left hand sweeper for him. He can see fuck all till he gets there. If he was a local it shouldn't have happened. Plenty of non locals use that road. Heading north it puts you on the inland road to Kaikoura or the leader road back to SH1.