Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

[rastuscat]

But how can you issuse infringement notices when there are no signs/ rules to disobey. ...?

Just look at what happens when traffic lights are faulty. They switch to flashing amber.

People are then expected to apply the basic giveaway rules. There are so many folk who are clueless that just stop and wait for something or someone to control them.

Others with clues get pissy when they are supposed to give way but the car they are supposed to give way to is busy giving way to them.

It ends up being the decisive who progress. I expect that's what would happen if all controls were removed.

It was interesting being a cop during the first few hours and days after the earthquake. It could have easily turned to mayhem, but folk just caught a disease called "community spirit" and things rolled pretty well.

[Ocean1]

Just look at what happens when traffic lights are faulty. They switch to flashing amber.

People are then expected to apply the basic giveaway rules. There are so many folk who are clueless that just stop and wait for something or someone to control them.

Others with clues get pissy when they are supposed to give way but the car they are supposed to give way to is busy giving way to them.

It ends up being the decisive who progress. I expect that's what would happen if all controls were removed.

It was interesting being a cop during the first few hours and days after the earthquake. It could have easily turned to mayhem, but folk just caught a disease called "community spirit" and things rolled pretty well.

You don't have to wait for earthquakes, most of Asia cheerfully ignores any signage and all of the official rules with pretty much the same results.

[Scuba_Steve]

Just look at what happens when traffic lights are faulty. They switch to flashing amber.

People are then expected to apply the basic giveaway rules. There are so many folk who are clueless that just stop and wait for something or someone to control them.

Others with clues get pissy when they are supposed to give way but the car they are supposed to give way to is busy giving way to them.

It ends up being the decisive who progress. I expect that's what would happen if all controls were removed.

It was interesting being a cop during the first few hours and days after the earthquake. It could have easily turned to mayhem, but folk just caught a disease called "community spirit" and things rolled pretty well.

That would be an incorrect assumption; people get confused at the flashing amber because they're used to pretty coloured lights telling them what to do, people don't have to think about driving the NZTA keeps trying more & more to make sure the roads do that for them which is why the class of driving out there is so piss poor but make people think & driving standards would improve much like how bikers are better drivers through necessity we have to think when we're out there

[scumdog]

That would be an incorrect assumption; people get confused at the flashing amber because they're used to pretty coloured lights telling them what to do, people don't have to think about driving the NZTA keeps trying more & more to make sure the roads do that for them which is why the class of driving out there is so piss poor but make people think & driving standards would improve much like how bikers are better drivers through necessity we have to think when we're out there

Re your last comment: Read tomorrows newspaper about a 'better driver' biker that wasn't.

[R650R]

I hereby submit forthwith evidence of the police xmas club... they even have enough spare cash for decorations!

Jesus just noticed hes wearing his seatbelt in parking lot!

[GazzaH]

As the world moves inexorably towards replacing braincells with silicon, autonomous cars are just around the corner.

I wonder whether the programming and testing they do in the labs involve motorbikes coming up fast, tilting towards them, swerving around them and, for that matter, sliding up alongside and past them in the same lane or at the lights?

I wonder if there are standard test scenarios for proving the safety of robot cars? And if so, who'd care to hazard a guess about what proportion of those tests involve motorbikes?

[neels]

There was no speed to worry about driving to ashvegas today, old git in a suzuki swift doing 60-70 then speeding up on the passing lanes so only about 4 of the 40 or so cars stuck behind him could pass. Breezed on by several cops with their radars on, but apparently as he wasn't doing >4kph above the speed limit didn't warrant their attention.

[Berries]

I wonder whether the programming and testing they do in the labs involve motorbikes coming up fast, tilting towards them, swerving around them and, for that matter, sliding up alongside and past them in the same lane or at the lights?

Motorbikes are incompatible with the future. When all vehicles are limited to a certain speed and travel in convoy they aren't going to let some goober actually enjoy themselves on two wheels and, erm, break a rule or two on occasion. If and when the government finally decides that nobody should die on the roads we are out of there.

Obviously nobody would have the balls to do that so we will be priced out of things. My rego says so.

[GazzaH]

I think I am future-incompatible too, in that case.

Time to start stockpiling pre-computer vehicles.

[Swoop]

...autonomous cars are just around the corner.

Not in our lifetime.

I have to agree with The Grand Tour (S2 E2) where they quite rightly point out the flaws in the computer systems that will make autonomous cars an absolute hazard.

[granstar]

[QUOTE=GazzaH;1131077447]I think I am future-incompatible too, in that case.

Time to start stockpiling pre-computer vehicles.[/QUOTE

[Akzle]

I read a story where they think it will be 2040 before they are perfected enough for NZ roads. Having said that I remember a media statement that the National Govt was keen for them to be tested on NZ roads. We are lucky that National are no longer in maybe.

you're a fuckwit

[Voltaire]

I think I am future-incompatible too, in that case.

Time to start stockpiling pre-computer vehicles.

Luddies are now my heros

[Akzle]

Your a retard because they are the only 3 words you know. Or maybe you are yet to start school so you can learn more? If you are yet to start school I apologise for calling you a retard.

you're a fuckwit.

[babysteps]

Soooo, while there is a Fuckwit fest going on above, why not contemplate this novel idea...

Stop focusing on speed and start focusing on retraining drivers every X years. We are the biggest problem, not speed or roads.