MotoGP 2018

[carbonhed]

19, 20? ...

Nice try, but sorry, my crystal balls don't see that far. Dangly little fuckers.

[husaberg]

Off the Wikipedia...

Throughout his World Championship career Pedrosa has been plagued by injuries that has often prevented him from clean seasons that would allow a shot at the title with a high injury per crash ratio compared to other top riders.

2003 Australian motorcycle Grand Prix (125cc) Double fracture in the talus bone of the left foot and a fracture of the right ankle.
2005 Japanese motorcycle Grand Prix (250cc) Fracture of the left humeral head that affected the supraspinal tendon.
2006 Malaysian motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Small fracture of the small left toe and loss of cutaneous matter on the right knee. 5 stitches in that vertical cut.
2007 Turkish motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Thoracic trauma, blow to the left gluteus and neck trauma.
2007 Japanese motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Post-traumatic arthritis with inflammation to the small toe of the left foot.
2008 Sepang test (MotoGP) Fracture of the second metacarpal in the right hand, with three diaphyseal fragments, which are the bones that are found in the middle part of the metacarpus.
2008 German motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) General inflammation of the left hand with hematomas in the veins of the extensor tendons. Displaced fracture of the distal phalanx of the left index finger. A sprain of the interphalangeal articulation next to the left middle finger. Fracture of the large bone of the left wrist. Sprain of the lateral external ligament of the right ankle.
2008 Australian motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Capsular hematoma on the left knee that had to be treated two months after.
2009 Qatar test (MotoGP) Fracture of the radius of the left arm and contusion on the left knee that required a skin graft, because the scar re-opened from an operation before Christmas.
2009 Italian motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Incomplete fracture of the greater trochanter of the right femur. A fracture without displacement, an injury that requires absolute rest and treatment with painkillers.[48]
2009 December (MotoGP) Underwent an operation to remove a screw from his left wrist.[49]
2010 Japanese motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Four-fragment chip fracture of the left collarbone and a Grade 1 ankle sprain.[50]
2011 French motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Fractured right collarbone.[51]
2013 German motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Small fracture of left collarbone.[52]
2015 Qatar motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Arm pump of right hand.[37]
2016 Japanese motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Fracture of right collarbone consisting of four fragments, requiring surgery (the 14th major surgery of his career [46]). Subcapital fracture of the right fibula with no displacement, requiring only immobilization.[44] Fracture to the fourth metatarsal of the left foot.[45]
2018 Argentine motorcycle Grand Prix (MotoGP) Fracture of the right wrist, requiring surgery to repair.[53]

I'd imagine there is a few there missing but you get the picture. Guy must be full of metal, lots of riders would have retired after all that shit but he keeps going cause he's hungry for that title, jumping bikes may very well bring this finally as he was almost unstoppable on the 250 so if he ever gets a bike that he can ride to his full ability, who knows what will happen?

Bring it on I say, bit like Zarco decided not to try and beat MM on the MM's bike, Dani needs to do the same as I don't ever see him being able to ride that bike that last 5 or 10% like MM can.

Kevin still won 500gp title he had far more injuries than are on this list as well.

[Luckylegs]

Kevin still won 500gp title he had far more injuries than are on this list as well.

Yeh but dani would probably win one too if marquez was recovering from a serious injury which almost cost him his leg and dovi suffered a career ending injury.

[pritch]

Ironic if Puig gets rid of Pedro because when the latter arrived at Repsol Puig sold Honda on the story that Pedro could walk on water. Later they built the bike around Pedro at the expense of their then reigning world champ Hayden. It was all quite ugly.

Puig has long sold himself as a talent spotter. He used to have four young riders, with a block of four numbers, under his wing:24 Elias, 26 Pedrosa, and 27 Stoner . Dunno who 25 was. Anybody?

[husaberg]

Yeh but dani would probably win one too if marquez was recovering from a serious injury which almost cost him his leg and dovi suffered a career ending injury.

True but then Doohan would have had three more titles at least if he hadn't have crashed at Assen.
Plus Rainey wouldn't have crashed if he hadn't have had to push it beyond the limits if Yamaha had have built him a competitive bike either.
Kevin would have won more titles if he hadn't have rode around the Suzukis problems and if he had have been able to settle for 2nd or third place rather than risk a crash and DNF just like Eddie did.
Fact is despite having the best bike most of the time Dani was riding beyond is level of his skill too often when he crashed and thus he has no open titles.

[husaberg]

Ironic if Puig gets rid of Pedro because when the latter arrived at Repsol Puig sold Honda on the story that Pedro could walk on water. Later they built the bike around Pedro at the expense of their then reigning world champ Hayden. It was all quite ugly.

Puig has long sold himself as a talent spotter. He used to have four young riders, with a block of four numbers, under his wing:24 Elias, 26 Pedrosa, and 27 Stoner . Dunno who 25 was. Anybody?

Stefan Bradl?

[Autech]

Going on that logic, if Simomcelli hadn't taken Pedrosa out in 2011?
If Barbera hadn't taken him out in 2012?
If MM hadn't clipped him in 2013 cutting that sensor?
If they kept the soft carcus tyre last year?

Or this year:
If he didn't get a fucked tyre at Qatar
If Zarco hadn't taken him out in Argentina? We could have seen a totally different Pedrosa at COTA and Jerez (not that he was slow just not as dominant as last year). Now he's 50 points down through arguably no fault of his owm while he's been showing pace to rival MM at every track.

Takes both skill and luck to win a championship, especially in the current grid of aliens.

We all see what we want to see I guess, I see a rider with guts and mad skills fighting an uphill battle due to his size, but doing a good job despite it.

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[husaberg]

Going on that logic, if Simomcelli hadn't taken Pedrosa out in 2011?
If Barbera hadn't taken him out in 2012?
If MM hadn't clipped him in 2013 cutting that sensor?
If they kept the soft carcus tyre last year?

Or this year:
If he didn't get a fucked tyre at Qatar
If Zarco hadn't taken him out in Argentina? We could have seen a totally different Pedrosa at COTA and Jerez (not that he was slow just not as dominant as last year). Now he's 50 points down through arguably no fault of his owm while he's been showing pace to rival MM at every track.

Takes both skill and luck to win a championship, especially in the current grid of aliens.

We all see what we want to see I guess, I see a rider with guts and mad skills fighting an uphill battle due to his size, but doing a good job despite it.

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I wasn't being logical I was being sarcastic
IMO It takes far more skill than luck and far more hard work than talent to win.
But hard working talented people tend to be "lucky" when it comes to wining world Championships.
Jerry Burgess philosophy was to work harder to build a bike that was capable of wining so the rider could complete a whole race and championship by not having to risk riding at 100% and end up hurt himself.

[eelracing]

Puig has long sold himself as a talent spotter. He used to have four young riders, with a block of four numbers, under his wing:24 Elias, 26 Pedrosa, and 27 Stoner . Dunno who 25 was. Anybody?

Telefonica junior team.Initially Joan Olive, Elias and Pedrosa. Stoner came later.

[eelracing]

We all see what we want to see I guess, I see a rider with guts and mad skills fighting an uphill battle due to his size, but doing a good job despite it.

Good rider... yes they all are.
His size was a massive advantage on 125's and 250's.
On the big bikes he could holeshot like a motherfucker and lack of weight shud give him an advantage on the picks (surely a must now that electronics control everything else) .Yet he's been outclassed by all his team mates on the most successful bike in the four stroke era.

On any other bike he'd be an also ran.

[eelracing]

Also, my brother just shared this on FaceBrick.. Got a chuckle :P

https://www.motorcyclealliance.com.a...ug-mcclutchin//

Very interesting question posed at the end there in regards to imagining it was Marquez who was pushed wide by Dovi before diving back on the apex only to take out Rossi... Imagine the shit storm then?

Or vise-versa, could the season handle it?
Would we want to see it??

[jasonu]

If Dani goes from Honda, I really hope he gets a spot in another team so we an see what he can really do.

But he already rides the best bike in the field. He has shown he will never win another championship. Time for him to move on and open up the spot for maybe another Doohan/Rossi/MM.

[Berries]

But Cal already has a ride.

[Drew]

(surely a must now that electronics control everything else) .

Ah. You don't know what you're fucken blithering about.

Most of us can't really ride a bike for shit. I mean really control the thing. Those cunts however, can. At the same time as making changes to several other things on the fly.

Tell me how that is easier or less of a challenge.

Fucken dinosaurs whinging that it's less pure or not real bike racing, simply need to shut the fuck up. We live in an electronic age, and bikes are catching up.

Or should we all be riding foot clutch operated, exposed valve gear antiques?

Cocks.

[Autech]

Sparked up some good debate here

I wasn't being logical I was being sarcastic
IMO It takes far more skill than luck and far more hard work than talent to win.
But hard working talented people tend to be "lucky" when it comes to wining world Championships.
Jerry Burgess philosophy was to work harder to build a bike that was capable of wining so the rider could complete a whole race and championship by not having to risk riding at 100% and end up hurt himself.

Damnit why didn't you hold up the sarcasm board.
Skill/talent - Pretty much all riders on the grid have shown they deserve their rides excluding a couple. MM has some massive reflexes on the bike which the other riders don't have, Other riders bring different skills than him that they use equally well. Rossi brings Sunday mojo and great racecraft, Zarco/Lorenzo smooth AF riding, Dovi mad breaking skills and analytical mind...
Hard work - Iannone would be a good case of someone who apparently doesn't work hard enough but has the talent to do well
Luck - MM chose the wrong tyre for a race, burned it out early then HAD to swap for slicks then killed the opposition. MM's 2 main contenders just got taken out of contention in one race. 2014 the only bike on the grid capable of beating him was being ridden by a guy in agony with arm pump.
Takes luck as well

As for the Honda being the best bike on the grid, if it was why do the rookies struggle so much on it?
It's had its up years (2014) and it's down years (2015) just like any bike.
I would agree that this year it's looking like being the best bike as it's not struggling with exit drive like it used to, but only if you can ride it like a nutcase. CC's isn't the best bike on the grid though remember it's a bag of shit so he has to push hard and crash out.