The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Viking01]

The Map that viking showed is utter horse shit as it describes the public land owned by both the Jewish Palestinians as solely being palistinians land. While 47.06 percent of private land in Palestine in 1945 belonged to Arabs and 5.15 percent belonged to Jews, the largest category of land was “Public and Other” at 47.8 percent. This is a rather large minor detail to leave out.”
The British decided to spilt the land into two states it was their land to decide what to do with it.

I'm not aware that the earlier map made any statement as to "Palestinian land ownership".
My understanding is that it related to "Palestinian land occupation".

The following document indicates that the Arab population occupied approx 85% of the
land referred to as Palestine at that stage.

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...ion-of-israel/

I believe that you are incorrect where you say "it was Britain's land to decide what to
do with it."

As the document states, Britain had occupied Palestine during WW1 (1917), and as the
"occupying power", it was granted right to act as an Administrator for the territory.
Britain had no land ownership or disposal rights re Palestine.

A proposal - under the auspices of UNSCOP - was to produce a recommendation on partition
of Palestine, to be presented to the UN General Assembly.

Perhaps UNSCOP's recommendation for land allocation to Arab (45%) and Jewish (55%) - in
stark contrast to then current land occupation - as well as the report's denial of the
right to Palestinian self determination - was a prime source of Arab discontent.

And the paragraph immediately prior to the section heading "The Authority of the U.N.
with Regard to Partition" - and how the state of Israel came to be declared - also gives
another clue as to why the Arabs chose to fight.

As does the Conclusion section of the document.

[husaberg]

I'm not aware that the earlier map made any statement as to "Palestinian land ownership".
My understanding is that it related to "Palestinian land occupation".

The following document indicates that the Arab population occupied approx 85% of the
land referred to as Palestine at that stage.

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...ion-of-israel/

I believe that you are incorrect where you say "it was Britain's land to decide what to
do with it."

As the document states, Britain had occupied Palestine during WW1 (1917), and as the
"occupying power", it was granted right to act as an Administrator for the territory.
Britain had no land ownership or disposal rights re Palestine.

A proposal - under the auspices of UNSCOP - was to produce a recommendation on partition
of Palestine, to be presented to the UN General Assembly.

Perhaps UNSCOP's recommendation for land allocation to Arab (45%) and Jewish (55%) - in
stark contrast to then current land occupation - as well as the report's denial of the
right to Palestinian self determination - was a prime source of Arab discontent.

And the paragraph immediately prior to the section heading "The Authority of the U.N.
with Regard to Partition" - and how the state of Israel came to be declared - also gives
another clue as to why the Arabs chose to fight.

As does the Conclusion section of the document.

Your not aware of historic facts but you attempt to misrepresent them
You should go work for trump

[jasonu]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle...ectid=12115437

What a worn out old whore.
I'm surprised that guy Pritch didn't already post this. Right up his ally and in the Harold too.

[husaberg]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle...ectid=12115437

What a worn out old whore.
I'm surprised that guy Pritch didn't already post this. Right up his ally and in the Harold too.

To be far Jason Trump made Hillarys husbands affairs part of the campaign so its all fair for him to be treated with a dose of his own medicine.

In an interview with The New York Times, he also contended that infidelity was “never a problem” during his three marriages, though his first ended in an ugly divorce after Mr. Trump began a relationship with the woman who became his second wife.
Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, argued that Mrs. Clinton’s support for Ms. Machado was part of a pattern by the Democrat of treating women to suit her own political ends, and raised Mrs. Clinton’s criticism of women who had been involved with her husband, such as Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers.

He said he was bringing up Mr. Clinton’s infidelities because he thought they would repulse female voters and turn them away from the Clintons, and because he was eager to unsettle Mrs. Clinton in their next two debates and on the campaign trail.
“She’s nasty, but I can be nastier than she ever can be,” Mr. Trump said.
“Hillary Clinton was married to the single greatest abuser of women in the history of politics,” he added about Mr. Clinton. “Hillary was an enabler, and she attacked the women who Bill Clinton mistreated afterward. I think it’s a serious problem for them, and it’s something that I’m considering talking about more in the near future.”

[pritch]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle...ectid=12115437

What a worn out old whore.
I'm surprised that guy Pritch didn't already post this. Right up his ally and in the Harold too.

Some of you may have noticed that Trump is often guilty of projection. This is when someone accuses other people of what they are doing themselves. (This is also straight from the playbook of one Adolf Hitler.) Virtually everything that Trump accuses somebody else of doing, is something he is guilty of himself. It's a long list.

Jason is such a Trump fan it seems, that he has adopted the same approach, he evidently spends a shit-load more time reading the Herald than I do.

I have been a fan of Annie Leiboviz's work since the 70s though, back when she worked for Rolling Stone magazine.

[pete376403]

Nice column in the Dompost this morning by Joe Bennet. He likens Trump to a water buffalo thats been bitten by a Komodo dragon (Mueller) The venom is slowly but surely killing the buffalo, and every time it looks round, there is the Komodo waiting.

[husaberg]

One other major legal development occurred on last week was the indictment of California congressman Duncan Hunter
Hunter, a five-term congressman was the second member of Congress to endorse Trump's campaign for president. The first was Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY), who — incredibly — was also indicted this month on charges of insider trading, prompting him to cancel his re-election campaign.
Hunter’s indictment was the culmination of a year-long FBI criminal investigation into Hunter's reported misuse of over $250,000 in campaign funds on himself, family, and friends. Hunter and his wife Margaret are charged with wire fraud, falsifying records, campaign finance violations, and conspiracy. He has previously denied all wrongdoing.

[oldrider]

It was never about Russia. The targeting of @RealDonaldTrump serves to protect Hillary Clinton and her enablers/co-conspirators in Obama administration from prosecution.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses...01294983667715 - Turn on the sound.

[Banditbandit]

It was never about Russia. The targeting of @RealDonaldTrump serves to protect Hillary Clinton and her enablers/co-conspirators in Obama administration from prosecution.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses...01294983667715 - Turn on the sound.

Oh crap ... even if you buy into the idea that Clinton and Obama should be prosecuted - you have to see that Russian engagement in the US elections and US politics in the way that is being suggested is a major issue ...

This speaks to the independence of the USA - their sovereignty - and as Russia is an old enemy, seeks to an enemy undermining the sovereignty of another country and possibly even putting a puppet into the presidency ....

If Russia was NOT trying to influence the US elections for an outcome favourable to Russia why waste time and money, as Russia clearly has, either state-sanctioned or not?

[pritch]

It was never about Russia. The targeting of @RealDonaldTrump serves to protect Hillary Clinton and her enablers/co-conspirators in Obama administration from prosecution.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses...01294983667715 - Turn on the sound.

John, I spent three minutes of my life watching some of that. I want a refund. The Republicans spent years and many millions trying to convict Clinton of something/anything to do with Benghazi and her emails and came up blank. A much shorter investigation of Trump's doings is resulting in indictments and convictions and it's far from over.

I think I'll ask Santa for Trump to be impeached before Christmas.

[Katman]

- you have to see that Russian engagement in the US elections and US politics in the way that is being suggested is a major issue ...

Why is it any more major than America's interference in other countries elections and politics?

[Banditbandit]

Why is it any more major than America's interference in other countries elections and politics?

I never suggested it wasn't ...

[Katman]

I never suggested it wasn't ...

So why aren't we seeing the same degree of outrage when it's America doing the interfering?

....and possibly even putting a puppet into the presidency ....

Have you kept count of the number of puppets that America has installed in foreign countries governments?

[Katman]

Seriously, all you "Oh my God, Russian interference!" parrots make me fucking laugh.

[jasonu]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12116038

I thought this was amusing.