The 1080 debate

[Woodman]

And as I've already stated, looking to switch to alternative methods in areas where they could easily be implemented would show a readiness to look for compromise.

Or have we really become a society where compromise is a thing of the past?

They are looking into the genetic approach, (which will also upset the hunters/anti1080 loons) and in a lot of areas e.g. Kahurangi the 1080 is dropped every three years and in between drops the areas are trapped and monitored.

[Katman]

They are looking into the genetic approach, (which will also upset the hunters/anti1080 loons)......

How so?

If the pests are destined for extermination anyway I fail to see why anyone would object to them being genetically sterilised.

[skippa1]

Well it's certainly not if you approach it with that mindset.

Done a bit of trapping have you? Because i have. Where did you do it? I did in the coromandel, Ureweras and Waikarimoana. Interested in what you base your opinion on.

[Katman]

Interested in what you base your opinion on.

Conversations with my ex-neighbour who was a possum trapper.

[FJRider]

Conversations with my ex-neighbour who was a possum trapper.

How many did he get in a week ... ???

[Katman]

How many did he get in a week ... ???

Well he didn't kill any Keas. I know that much.

[skippa1]

Conversations with my ex-neighbour who was a possum trapper.

I did it....first hand. I stand by my comments based on fact.

[husaberg]

Well he didn't kill any Keas. I know that much.

But he did catch domestic cats, Wekas and kiwi.

Well he didn't kill any Keas. I know that much.

So you have no first hand expperience
Have you ever had to bash a possum to death with a pipe or hammer while it was coaught in a trap.

I'm all for protecting native species but is choosing the most inhumane method, simply because it's the cheapest option, really the way an advanced society should deal with an issue?

Note the rating for humaneness of traps vs 1080 is 5 vs 6.
Note all traps have to be checked within 12 hours of of dawn.

I'll pay for it out of my taxes - just like everyone else will.

And yes, I'm happy to pay more towards an alternative to the callous and indiscriminate poisoning of our environment and it's inhabitants.

Note traps are indiscriminate in what they catch.
Note traps are not an option for remote areas
That are barely a option in non remote areas as you have to carry so many different types one for possums one for rats one for mustilids

[skippa1]

Well he didn't kill any Keas. I know that much.

Do you really?

[Katman]

I did it....first hand.

So did he.

[skippa1]

So did he.

But you didnt....youre not talking first hand....i am

[Katman]

Do you really?

Should I hit him with an OIA request?

[Katman]

But you didnt....youre not talking first hand....i am

So it's your word against his.

It doesn't really settle the argument though, does it?

[FJRider]

Well he didn't kill any Keas. I know that much.

That he knew of ... and if did ... probably wouldn't tell you.

[skippa1]

So it's your word against his.

It doesn't really settle the argument though, does it?

No....but it casts some doubt over any second hand "facts" quoted