The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[pritch]

America has always been quite blatant in their interfering - to anyone viewing their actions with open eyes.

I may be wrong, but I don't think that's what he was talking about.

There is now open corruption by politicians in the USA, and there has been since Trump started appointing his cabinet. Moscow Mitch McConnell is married to a woman named Elaine Chow. Her father is a wealthy Chinese shipping magnate. She is Transport Secretary in Trumps cabinet. Despite being required to divest herself of her massive shareholding in the biggest US roading company, she retained her shares and would periodically make a speech about infrastructure. Everytime she did that the company share price went up.

A Russian oligarch Deripaska was sanctioned for interfering in the 2016 US elections. Now though he has been cleared to build a new aluminium plant in Kentucky, one of the broke arse southern states. Kentucky has an average life expectancy ranked 49th in the USA, equal with Libya in world rankings. Now there's something to be proud of. Moscow Mitch is one of the two Senators representing Kentucky. The other senator is Rand Paul which probably goes some way to explain why Kentucky is so backward.

Re the smelter:
https://www.newsweek.com/company-rus...onnell-1397061

[Viking01]

https://www.rt.com/usa/465601-soros-...ocrat-funding/

[oldrider]

UK "Up To Its Neck" In RussiaGate Affair, Secret Texts Reveal British Role In Trump Coup Effort - - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...mp-coup-effort - - Best friends?

[pritch]

UK "Up To Its Neck" In RussiaGate Affair,

Nothing new in any of that at all. It was an Australian Embassy official who first notified the FBI of possible Russian interference. The 'Steele Dossier' came a bit later.

[oldrider]

Israel is a Kremlin decoy - By Timothy Fitzpatrick - July 12, 2019 - https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2019/...kremlin-decoy/ - - Interesting?

[pritch]

So this is posted on Twitter as being on the Facebook page of the El Paso shooter. I'm not checking because I don't want to remember the sick bastard's name. Anyhoo, guess who he admires?

[husaberg]

[husaberg]

So this is posted on Twitter as being on the Facebook page of the El Paso shooter. I'm not checking because I don't want to remember the sick bastard's name. Anyhoo, guess who he admires?

Since July 2018, the Giffords group says it and the Campaign Legal Center have detailed millions in illegal campaign contributions that the NRA funneled to at least seven federal candidates, including $25 million to the 2016 campaign of future President Donald Trump.

To commit “campaign finance violations of dramatic scale,” according to the 21-page complaint, the gun lobby used “a complex network of shell corporations.”

The contributions to the Trump campaign alone exceed the congressional limit by 9,259 times, the complaint says.

Distinguishing the NRA’s activity from independent political spending, which the Supreme Court has found poses less risk of corruption than direct contributions, the Giffords group says the NRA’s donations were coordinated with the candidates, putting them in violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act’s spending limits.
Federal campaign finance law sets a $5,000 spending limit for multicandidate political action committees. That amount drops to $2,800 for PACs supporting an individual candidate.
Provided there is no coordination with the candidates themselves, those limits don’t apply, however, when a PAC donates to outside groups on a candidate’s behalf.
According to Wednesday’s complaint, the NRA skirted the law by having the same vendors handling the candidates’ ads place its own ads supporting them as well.
Since 2014, the lawsuit alleges, the NRA used this scheme to hide up to $35 million in advertising expenditures that were coordinated with the federal candidates.
NRA members will gather Thursday in Indianapolis for the group’s annual meeting, where President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence are scheduled to speak Friday.
https://www.courthousenews.com/gun-v...ions-to-trump/


The lawsuit continues, “The illegal contributions to the Trump campaign alone are up to 9,259 times the limit set by Congress. Yet the Commission has taken no action on Plaintiff’s complaints.”
The president is not the only politician involved in the suit. Republicans, Thom Tillis (NC), Cory Gardner (CO), Tom Cotton (AR), Ron Johnson (R) and Josh Hawley (MO) and unsuccessful candidate, Matt Rosendale (MT) are also named.
The action argues:
“Taken together, these facts demonstrate an elaborate scheme for the NRA to unlawfully coordinate with the candidates it supports for federal office, including Donald J. Trump, Thom Tillis, Cory Gardner, Tom Cotton, Ron Johnson, Matt Rosendale, and Josh Hawley, while evading detection of its violations of federal law concerning the coordination of advertising communications through common vendors.”

https://hillreporter.com/nra-donated...-lawsuit-32795


The F.B.I. and special counsel Robert Mueller are investigating meetings between N.R.A. officials and powerful Russian operatives, trying to determine if those contacts had anything to do with the gun group spending $30 million to help elect Donald Trump—triple what it invested on behalf of Mitt Romney in 2012. The use of foreign money in American political campaigns is illegal. One encounter of particular interest to investigators is between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian banker at an N.R.A. dinner.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...-russian-money

[jasonu]

Since July 2018, the Giffords group says it and the Campaign Legal Center have detailed millions in illegal campaign contributions that the NRA funneled to at least seven federal candidates, including $25 million to the 2016 campaign of future President Donald Trump.

To commit “campaign finance violations of dramatic scale,” according to the 21-page complaint, the gun lobby used “a complex network of shell corporations.”

The contributions to the Trump campaign alone exceed the congressional limit by 9,259 times, the complaint says.

Distinguishing the NRA’s activity from independent political spending, which the Supreme Court has found poses less risk of corruption than direct contributions, the Giffords group says the NRA’s donations were coordinated with the candidates, putting them in violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act’s spending limits.
Federal campaign finance law sets a $5,000 spending limit for multicandidate political action committees. That amount drops to $2,800 for PACs supporting an individual candidate.
Provided there is no coordination with the candidates themselves, those limits don’t apply, however, when a PAC donates to outside groups on a candidate’s behalf.
According to Wednesday’s complaint, the NRA skirted the law by having the same vendors handling the candidates’ ads place its own ads supporting them as well.
Since 2014, the lawsuit alleges, the NRA used this scheme to hide up to $35 million in advertising expenditures that were coordinated with the federal candidates.
NRA members will gather Thursday in Indianapolis for the group’s annual meeting, where President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence are scheduled to speak Friday.
https://www.courthousenews.com/gun-v...ions-to-trump/



The lawsuit continues, “The illegal contributions to the Trump campaign alone are up to 9,259 times the limit set by Congress. Yet the Commission has taken no action on Plaintiff’s complaints.”
The president is not the only politician involved in the suit. Republicans, Thom Tillis (NC), Cory Gardner (CO), Tom Cotton (AR), Ron Johnson (R) and Josh Hawley (MO) and unsuccessful candidate, Matt Rosendale (MT) are also named.
The action argues:
“Taken together, these facts demonstrate an elaborate scheme for the NRA to unlawfully coordinate with the candidates it supports for federal office, including Donald J. Trump, Thom Tillis, Cory Gardner, Tom Cotton, Ron Johnson, Matt Rosendale, and Josh Hawley, while evading detection of its violations of federal law concerning the coordination of advertising communications through common vendors.”

https://hillreporter.com/nra-donated...-lawsuit-32795


The F.B.I. and special counsel Robert Mueller are investigating meetings between N.R.A. officials and powerful Russian operatives, trying to determine if those contacts had anything to do with the gun group spending $30 million to help elect Donald Trump—triple what it invested on behalf of Mitt Romney in 2012. The use of foreign money in American political campaigns is illegal. One encounter of particular interest to investigators is between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian banker at an N.R.A. dinner.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...-russian-money

Are you and Prick an item?

[husaberg]

[pritch]

And so? I have no skin in this game, I think most politicians are self-serving wankers. But what are you trying to prove with that image? The ChCh terrorist did a shout out to a popular youtuber (actually, the most popular), it had no relevance to his actions.

I'm not trying to prove anything. We don't get many glimpses in to the state of mind of mass shooters, other than something like, "I don't like Mondays". Some people will consider that photo completely unconnected with his crime. Others perhaps less so?

No doubt the psychiatrists will have a field day with him, but likely nothing will change.

[husaberg]

Donald Trump's leadership is viewed around the world about as favourably as that of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to a new poll.
In its latest world leadership poll, only 31 percent approve of Mr Trump's leadership, compared to 30 percent who back Mr Putin - whose administration is regularly criticised for curtailing free speech, rigging elections and imprisoning political opponents.

China has also overtaken the US in the world's eyes, with 34 percent approval. Leading the pack amongst the world's powers is Germany, with 39 percent approval.

Except for a brief moment in 2011, the US had the highest approval ratings of any world power between 2009 and 2016, when Barack Obama was President. Germany led in 2007, 2008, 2011 and 2017.

Russia has been on the upswing in recent years, rising from 22 percent in 2014 - when it invaded Ukraine - to 30 percent today.

Mr Trump's image in New Zealand is poor, but improving - he now has 19 percent approval, four points higher than a year ago. A whopping 69 percent disapprove. He's a bit more popular across the ditch, with 23 percent support in Australia, also up 4 percent.

Gallup interviewed about 134,000 people across the world come up with the latest results.

[pritch]

A second mass shooting on the same day. Ten reported dead including the shooter in Dayton, Ohio.
The thots and prayers don’t seem to be working.

[jasonu]

Mr Trump's image in New Zealand is poor, but improving - he now has 19 percent approval, four points higher than a year ago. A whopping 69 percent disapprove. .

Do you think anyone really gives a fuck what a NZ poll says given the ones polled are likely a bunch of liberal media fed sheep? Certainly no one here does.

[husaberg]

Do you think anyone really gives a fuck what a NZ poll says given the ones polled are likely a bunch of liberal media fed sheep? Certainly no one here does.

The poll was conducted world wide including americant's it also included New Zealanders and funny enough people from all over the rest if the world. (it was a worldwide survey)

Gallup interviewed about 134,000 people across the world come up with the latest results.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world...rump-poll.html

They mentioned the kiwi stat separate as it was a NZ publication the poll was mentioned in.
Listen to you claiming bias , as soon as you dont like a poll you throw a tanty it must have been tainted fake news blah blah..........
It must really chide when your Pres, is only as popular worldwide as a communist dictator and the same right wing dictator who helped get your commander and thief elected.

Europeans are more likely to trust Russia's Vladimir Putin and China's Xi Jinping to do the right thing regarding world affairs than US President Donald Trump, according to a survey released on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, a majority of respondents in most of the seven countries surveyed by the US-based Pew Research Centre said they trust Germany's Angela Merkel and France's Emmanuel Macron.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/12/...p-survey-finds

Nine in ten French people have an unfavourable opinion of Donald Trump, according to a recent study. And that's even worse than their view of Putin.
The survey measured Europeans' opinions of world leaders and was carried out by Odoxa-Dentsu Consulting on behalf of France Info and Le Figaro.
While 86 percent of Europeans were found to have a negative opinion of Trump, some 90 percent of the French said the same thing.
This marked a nine-point increase from the same study that was carried out in January.
Some 87 percent found Trump to be more aggressive now than he was at the start of the year, while 81 percent said they found him to be dangerous and racist.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20171103/put...ith-the-french

Global survey: Vladimir Putin more popular than Donald Trump
If the world population had to choose between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump as their country’s leader, the majority would favour Russia’s president Vladimir Putin over the US president. Also, the dominant position of the USA as the world’s global leader seems to be no longer unquestionable. This is the result of a recent survey conducted by WIN, the worldwide independent network of market research. In the survey 53769 people in 55 countries around the globe were asked for their opinions on Trump, Putin, and the current world order.
Except in the USA, most of the regions of the world prefer Putin to Trump. As the exclusive German WIN member, Produkt + Markt conducted the survey in Germany. While 71% of the participants in Germany would choose neither one of the two presidents as their head of state, 22% of the German respondents would still opt for Vladimir Putin, but only 7% would choose Donald Trump.
Similar answers were given to a question on the form of the world order. 76% of German respondents prefer neither a world leadership by the US nor a joint global leadership by the US and Russia; 12% believe that the US and Russia should exercise global leadership together, while only 8% believe that the US – as arguably the most powerful state in the world – should continue to lead globally.

https://www.produktundmarkt.de/en/bl...nald-trump.htm