Because they can't sit in the sandpit and play nicely?Originally Posted by Katman
But that is avoiding the question: If it is *all* America/Israels fault, how come the exact same issues existed before either of those countries were a thing?
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Because they can't sit in the sandpit and play nicely?
But that is avoiding the question: If it is *all* America/Israels fault, how come the exact same issues existed before either of those countries were a thing?
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Forum whore
Those "exact same issues" have never been on the scale that we're seeing these days.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
It's almost like populations have increased, communication paths are now real-time, access to quick and reliable travel is now possible and they have access to cold war era Russian Weaponary.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Forum whore
And don't forget Israel expanding into territories that they have no right to.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
If I'm being generous, I could accept that certainly doesn't help.
However, it does not account for the pre-existing Tribal and Religious violence that predates the creation of Israel, predates the founding of America
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Geriatric hoon
That was 'fake news'. Nobody with an IQ even close to room temperature would believe that, much less repeat it.hmmm, so either these "dems" woke up and thought, what is the best way I could end my political career today, or a bunch of far left wags seeing if they could trigger and fool the far rights into re-posting, or just far rights succeeding in getting the dumbest fucks in their ranks to believe this shit - looking at you Austin
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He was wrong, we do.
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Forum whore
As I said though - on nothing like the scale that we're seeing today.
And might I further add - you really should give some serious thought as to why America is so heavily involved in the Middle East conflict.
Because your (presumably) tongue-in-cheek sandpit comment really isn't the correct answer.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Which can be explained mostly by changes in population size and technology.
Israel need not apply.
I'd agree that the mere existence of Israel inflamed pre-existing issues and tensions.
however, the key word in that sentence is pre-existing.
If Israel was to disapear tomorrow and the US pull out all of their forces - do you think the Middle East would collectively hold hands and sing Kumbaya?
Of course not. There would be a tidal wave of Genocidal killings/retributions/vendettas/honor violence/Religious wars that would make the singular drone strike look like a holiday camp.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Forum whore
Israel is intent on expanding it's empire and it has America there to act as it's armed muscle.
It really is as simple as that.
Forum whore
Zionists believe that their God granted them all the land 'from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates' - and what we're seeing now is their efforts to achieve that.
Just faidin away!
Breaking: Full Netanyahu statement to security cabinet meeting. "The assassination of Soleimani isn't an Israeli event but an American event. We were not involved and should not be dragged into it."
- https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/s...rymakow.com%2F - Interesting? - who needs enemies with friends like this?
L-Plate Rider
God you two are dense its a parody website FFS. No wonder you fall for all that real propaganda.
The CNN link should of given it away if the first one didnt.
https://babylonbee.com/news/mandalor...bounty-hunters
https://babylonbee.com/news
LMFAO
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Because the Middle East has always been 'Simple'....
Even if everything you said about Israel was true, it still does not change the underlying reality that the various Middle Eastern countries have deep problems which stem from Tribal, Ethnic, Religious and Cultural differences.
And they are quite happy to murder each other en masse (and it particularly cruel and inventive ways in many instances) over these. And that they will do this with or without Israeli/US interference.
So the whole 'but Muh Israel' is really a moot point.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Forum whore
And none of that addresses the question of why America is so heavily involved (both overtly and clandestinely) in the whole Middle East conflict.
Forum whore
It is no less believable than most of the mills and boon tripe you posted.
Lets go Brandon
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