Friday Night Rants?

[Berries]

Jeez, all that anticipation.

[Laava]

Grandparents days? Those were the good ole days (late 1940’s to 60’s)

Us Millennials have it tougher and the stats don’t lie.
We are disadvantaged in every aspect growing up in the 21st century.

I think you might have missed the point there. He was talking about WW2 and the aftermath...
and how are you more disadvantaged growing up in the 21st century?

[ellipsis]

ya all close... fucking close...

cantabrians... bitching and moaning about our prime minister whom I think has made some fucking good decisions I may not all agrre with them all and I may think she should have done more but all up shes fucking GOOD.
Fuckwiths calling her a "crazy bitch" control freak" ... you bunch a rotten muppets do You want a USA or Victoria??? serious really fucking really???

Re the comments I have seen over NZ level 2 and Dorklands level 3... and not being able to travel willy fucking nilly...

Sounds like half of you guys would like to live in our grandparents days... They were allowed out of town, actually they were allowed, to go over seas... Some had their heads blown off some came back with no arms... Some saw there mates guts ripped out right in front of them...
... So... Maybe just maybe we aren't so badly off, a bit less selfishness perhaps people...

...and there was I waiting for D-Day...is that it...I have to agree with your sentiments tho...

[JimO]

and how are you more disadvantaged growing up in the 21st century?

the battery on ya iphone only lasts a day

[Laava]

Oh yeah! Wow it really is bad!

[Dean]

and how are you more disadvantaged growing up in the 21st century?

Economic
Our generation endured x2 of the 3 greatest global financial crises and pandemics as an emerging workforce.

We experienced the slowest economic growth than any other generation, this created challenges such as scarce employment & opportunity.

We will now inherit all of the failed business/pandemic debt (boomers are in retirement, Gen X are not far from it).

No chance at buying a home - salaries were 1/4 proportionate to the cost of a home (40’s-80’s). Currently houses are 1/10th of our salaries.

Lending opportunities have decreased, wages have not increased proportionate to inflation over the last 40 years. University education cost is now the highest it’s ever been proportional to income and we’re suffocated by student loan debt.

Societal
50% of all marriages end in divorce since the 21st century.
Higher % for relationships.
Meaning single parent homes massively increased since post WW2.

Bullying has increased exponentially with the introduction of social media.

Decline in societal morals and values and increase in crime and drug consumption.
Boomers grew up with the houses unlocked & Meth wasn’t as rampant.

Increase in domestic violence.

Health
Over represented in suicide & mental illness stats (depression etc).
Far greater than post WW2 stats.

More at risk to develop drug addictions (Alcohol, Meth).

More at risk of developing debilitating health conditions

Shorter forecasted life spans.

Those are just a few, research it can’t be bothered posting links.

[Laava]

First thing listed on google in response to your first example.
But, if you can't be bothered...
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/sites/de...recessions.pdf
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/b...-market-crash/

[dangerous]

I think you might have missed the point there. He was talking about WW2 and the aftermath...
and how are you more disadvantaged growing up in the 21st century?

yeah look Laava... again shit just goes over the youngers heads, so full of them selves its amazing... HISTORY people fucking HISTORY... stop being winey little shits and realize there was life before ya selves... this covid shit is NOTHING compared to what previous generations went through...

ok heres a story from my grandad in short...
he and his best mate were enlisted and sent to fight for what we have today (thats right you bunch a moaning fucks that think you have had a new arsehole ripped due to a bloody flue bug) my GD saw his best mate blown apart in front of him... he had his best mates entrails dripping of his face... his mate said gerry... you can have my aerial S4 look after it...
well Jerry got the square 4 but as soon as he did and remember this was his best mates love... the military took it from him as they needed it for war transportation... now my GD has nothing but the burnt smell of his bestie to remind him... and you fuck heads wining about not being able to ride to a rally or cross the straight ... fuck me at least you still have ya fucking bike...

[ellipsis]

Economic
Our generation endured x2 of the 3 greatest global financial crises and pandemics as an emerging workforce.

We experienced the slowest economic growth than any other generation, this created challenges such as scarce employment & opportunity.

We will now inherit all of the failed business/pandemic debt (boomers are in retirement, Gen X are not far from it).

No chance at buying a home - salaries were 1/4 proportionate to the cost of a home (40’s-80’s). Currently houses are 1/10th of our salaries.

Lending opportunities have decreased, wages have not increased proportionate to inflation over the last 40 years. University education cost is now the highest it’s ever been proportional to income and we’re suffocated by student loan debt.

Societal
50% of all marriages end in divorce since the 21st century.
Higher % for relationships.
Meaning single parent homes massively increased since post WW2.

Bullying has increased exponentially with the introduction of social media.

Decline in societal morals and values and increase in crime and drug consumption.
Boomers grew up with the houses unlocked & Meth wasn’t as rampant.

Increase in domestic violence.

Health
Over represented in suicide & mental illness stats (depression etc).
Far greater than post WW2 stats.

More at risk to develop drug addictions (Alcohol, Meth).

More at risk of developing debilitating health conditions

Shorter forecasted life spans.

Those are just a few, research it can’t be bothered posting links.

...this sounds like a general description of history being repeated, as it does, since probably Sumerian times or even back further...sorry can't be fucked posting links...

...riding the waves of a fluid and dangerous world is what we have...you just missed out on the bit of the wave that was rising at the time...it will come about again...probably after the next time the world teams all get together and try and kill the other side...that may be on the cards if the flu doesn't work...

...welcome into the human race... to the cold, hard, slippery rock we exist on...and the twists of time...

[Dean]

First thing listed on google in response to your first example.
But, if you can't be bothered...
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/sites/de...recessions.pdf
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/b...-market-crash/

1) I am talking about a global scale - not NZ data focused.

2) First article link you provided was published in June 2008 - insufficient data (12 years before our current pandemic/financial crisis which I stated).

3) Second article was published in 2017 - ditto, next please.

4a) https://blogs.imf.org/2020/04/14/the...at-depression/

4b) https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...e-world-war-ii

5) https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g...depression.asp

[scumdog]

Economic
Our generation endured x2 of the 3 greatest global financial crises and pandemics as an emerging workforce.

We experienced the slowest economic growth than any other generation, this created challenges such as scarce employment & opportunity.

We will now inherit all of the failed business/pandemic debt (boomers are in retirement, Gen X are not far from it).

No chance at buying a home - salaries were 1/4 proportionate to the cost of a home (40’s-80’s). Currently houses are 1/10th of our salaries.

Lending opportunities have decreased, wages have not increased proportionate to inflation over the last 40 years. University education cost is now the highest it’s ever been proportional to income and we’re suffocated by student loan debt.

Societal
50% of all marriages end in divorce since the 21st century.
Higher % for relationships.
Meaning single parent homes massively increased since post WW2.

Bullying has increased exponentially with the introduction of social media.

Decline in societal morals and values and increase in crime and drug consumption.
Boomers grew up with the houses unlocked & Meth wasn’t as rampant.

Increase in domestic violence.

Health
Over represented in suicide & mental illness stats (depression etc).
Far greater than post WW2 stats.

More at risk to develop drug addictions (Alcohol, Meth).

More at risk of developing debilitating health conditions

Shorter forecasted life spans.

Those are just a few, research it can’t be bothered posting links.

Seems like your group lacks a fair bit of personal responsibility and self control combined with a lack of 'stickability/gumption' and commitment. Oh and there's a fair bit of entitlement displayed by millenials.


You sadly missed on 23% mortgage interest rates, wage/price freeze and a whole lot of other fun things us baby-boomers enjoyed....

[Laava]

You sadly missed on 23% mortgage interest rates, wage/price freeze and a whole lot of other fun things us baby-boomers enjoyed....

Yep, the mid to late eighties was the worst recession I have experienced. The recession they talked about this century failed to happen. It was on paper only. Everyone had work, everyone had flash cars, cheap petrol and tyres, cheap and available electronics. Milk and honey.

[Laava]

1) I am talking about a global scale - not NZ data focused.

2) First article link you provided was published in June 2008 - insufficient data (12 years before our current pandemic/financial crisis which I stated).

3) Second article was published in 2017 - ditto, next please.

4a) https://blogs.imf.org/2020/04/14/the...at-depression/

4b) https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...e-world-war-ii

5) https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g...depression.asp

But you were talking about how hard YOU have it in this century. I am simply pointing out that you have it pretty sweet really.
So you are now saying is it is the current pandemic and financial situation that you mean?
"Us Millennials have it tougher and the stats don’t lie.
We are disadvantaged in every aspect growing up in the 21st century."
Well, doesn't that currently apply to everyone and not just you millennials?
You have no idea how tough a recession can be yet.

[Dean]

So you are now saying is it is the current pandemic and financial situation that you mean?

I was simply stating that when you show documents that talk about recessions it both needs to be a current document for due diligence and one that reflects the current recession also.

As I stated from the start - Millennials have endured x2 of some of the greatest recessions. So it makes sense that you would provide info that reflect both not just one.

Well, doesn't that currently apply to everyone and not just you millennials?

Not exactly, the point is Millennials emerged into an economy riddled with debt which disadvantaged us from the front foot. Fore instance I was working a weekend job in my last years of college in 2008 and I was affected by job cuts. Now as a young corporate professional I feel the pinch.

Whereas boomers were likely retired or close to retirement (based on median age) during both 2008 & current recession.

You have no idea how tough a recession can be yet.

Really? I do, when have you ever experienced a full shut down (more or less global) for greater than x1 month? Not since the Spanish Flu which is well past your time.

[Laava]

As I stated from the start - Millennials have endured x2 of some of the greatest recessions. So it makes sense that you would provide info that reflect both not just one.

when? I had to struggle through a recession in the mid to late eighties. There hasn't been anything even close to that since.



Not exactly, the point is Millennials emerged into an economy riddled with debt which disadvantaged us from the front foot. Fore instance I was working a weekend job in my last years of college in 2008 and I was affected by job cuts. Now as a young corporate professional I feel the pinch.

Whereas boomers were likely retired or close to retirement (based on median age) during both 2008 & current recession.
Boomers from 1946-1964. I was born in 64 so that made me 44 in 2008. So I am aware of exactly how good things have been this century.



Really? I do, when have you ever experienced a full shut down (more or less global) for greater than x1 month? Not since the Spanish Flu which is well past your time.
None of has have experienced a pandemic shutdown before, most of the world included. But that is not the same as a recession.

Do you have a mortgage?