Trump

[pritch]

Does anyone actually take Gulliani seriously and believe he has the evidence to back any of his rantings up ?

Nobody with a clue, and no.

If he had any evidence he would have produced it already at any one of the thirty odd cases they've lost. When the judges ask if he is alleging fraud, he is quick to say that he is not. He can say anything he likes next to porno places and landscaping businesses, but in court he has to stick to facts - and he hasn't got any. The opinion of one professor of constitutional and electoral law is that Rudy's performance is not about the law, it's theatre for Trump's base.

Rudy's colleague Sidney is now accusing named politicians of taking bribes. If her evidence for that isn't a whole lot better than the insanity she's been spouting so far, she could be in trouble.

Meanwhile Trump is moving to his Plan B: delay the election certification process in chosen states.

His plan C will likely be an attempt to corrupt the electoral college process.

[mashman]

Not that bad, indeed really entertaining for over 1/4 million US covid victims and their families, eh?

On virtually every front, with regards to Covid, there is evidence for and against taking certain actions. Evidence that comes from highly respected professionals from around the globe, yet for some reason that advice is glaringly contradictory to the other with regards to the best way forwards. But no, it's all Trumps fault? Fucksake, the previous administration, who during business as usual, lied their way into a war that has seen approximately 400,000 people killed and millions displaced overseas. Maybe explain that to the families of the dead and displaced and who already know that land and resource grabs and the destablization of government is responsible for the death and exodus. Would you rather we had that time all over again? Yeah, not that bad, unless you have the memory of a goldfish.

[Indiana_Jones]

Is orange man still bad?

[TheDemonLord]

Some ballots cannot be verified. Yes, that is backed up by very basic logic, reason and common sense... as are the other ways that voter fraud is aledged to be able to take place. Whether those ballots should be a part of any recount or not is a point of contention... and rightly so, but hey, the affidavits (evidence) being put forwards raise some concerns that fraud has taken place at a digital level also. I reckon they should leave things alone for another 4 years, because the last 4 really haven't been that bad and have been really entertaining is so many unexpected ways.

Holy Shit!

We agree on something!

[pritch]

It's all over Twitter but hasn't made the main news organisations yet, but apparently Giuliani has announced that Sidney Powell is no longer working either for the Trump campaign or for Trump personally. Can you imagine how bad a lawyer has to be to be fired by Rudy Giuliani?

She spoke of evidence of election fraud arriving as if from a firehose confirming electronic voting machines switching votes. She invoked the ghost of Hugo Chavez who has been dead for years. She produced no evidence. Apparently it existed only in her disordered mind. And the similarly disordered minds of anybody gullible enough to believe her fantasies.

[sugilite:Me]

It's all over Twitter but hasn't made the main news organisations yet, but apparently Giuliani has announced that Sidney Powell is no longer working either for the Trump campaign or for Trump personally. Can you imagine how bad a lawyer has to be to be fired by Rudy Giuliani?

She spoke of evidence of election fraud arriving as if from a firehose confirming electronic voting machines switching votes. She invoked the ghost of Hugo Chaves who has been dead for years. She produced no evidence. Apparently it existed only in her disordered mind. And the similarly disordered minds of anybody gullible enough to believe her fantasies.

Yep, it is official, Rudi says she does not work for them or the president. Even though she stood right beside him and spoke to the press just days ago. You cannot make this shit up


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1760108.html

[R650R]

Yep, it is official, Rudi says she does not work for them or the president. Even though she stood right beside him and spoke to the press just days ago. You cannot make this shit up


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1760108.html

That’s capitalism for you. Outsourcing, private contractors, fixed term contracts, no jobs for life lol

😉 😂😂😂

[husaberg]

Yep, it is official, Rudi says she does not work for them or the president. Even though she stood right beside him and spoke to the press just days ago. You cannot make this shit up


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1760108.html

We will add that to the list of people that are involved with Trump and then trump disavows all knowledge of later.

https://www.businessinsider.com/peop...eorge-conway-5
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/4253186002/

[RDJ]

It's not incredible - because given the strict nature of the term, it is definitely credible as so many KB pixels are dispensed by practitioners of Trump Derangement Syndrome - but it is definitely noteworthy how supremely invested some people here are on whether Trump succeeds Superlatively or fails Dismally.

I don't see why. We are here, and he is there. Whether Trump or Biden get in, in January, the consequences can be very significant for New Zealand, yet completely unalterable by us.

Well, everybody has to believe in something. I believe that with a day off tomorrow, I'm gonna top off the Gas, put on most of the Gear, crank up the V-twin, and Ride. & I'm pretty sure that neither Girl-Groping Hair-Sniffing Joe, nor Kamala Knee-Pads Harris, care either way.

[pritch]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-...b6e4b1ea4399a5

[pritch]

Trump thinks his lawyers are fools making him look bad. Well, nobody ever accused him of being quick on the uptake. After having over thirty cases tosssed out, and now the Supreme Court has refused to hear his case, he has finally seen the light.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ad/ar-BB1bhVCe

[R650R]

Trump thinks his lawyers are fools making him look bad. Well, nobody ever accused him of being quick on the uptake. After having over thirty cases tosssed out, and now the Supreme Court has refused to hear his case, he has finally seen the light.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ad/ar-BB1bhVCe

That is exactly what I was talking about earlier about poor reporting.
Nothing new and just unnamed sources, eg some b grade reporter churned out this article knowing it’s never gonna get challenged.
“ the press conference, a person familiar with the president's reaction told NBC News.”
“team, a person familiar with the president's thinking gave a profane shoulder shrug of an answer.

"Who the f--- knows?" that person said to NBC News”

[sugilite:Me]

Nooooo! Keep fighting it Donald, the comedy show of ineptness from your lawyers has been so entertaining thus far!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...to-white-house

[pritch]

That is exactly what I was talking about earlier about poor reporting.
Nothing new and just unnamed sources, eg some b grade reporter churned out this article knowing it’s never gonna get challenged.
“ the press conference, a person familiar with the president's reaction told NBC News.”
“team, a person familiar with the president's thinking gave a profane shoulder shrug of an answer.

"Who the f--- knows?" that person said to NBC News”

A moments thought would tell any normal person that “unnamed sources” will be with us forever. Particularly when dealing with a temperamental arsehole like Trump who fires anyone who he feels is not sufficiently loyal to him. Even if their remaining loyal would have meant they were breaking the law.

At least “unnamed sources” is better than “sources close to the Royal family.” That latter is meant to imply you are reading about something from somebody who is friendly with, or works for, the royals. What it normally means is that a royal reporter is interviewing his own keyboard.

[sugilite:Me]

I also believe that we will see him re-elected.

Well, now we have seen Trump come as close as he will ever get to officially conceding - as in him finally telling his staff to cooperate with President Elect Bidens transition team. Are you ready to concede Trump has lost the election? and in a fair n square manner- since the Trump lawyers have failed miserably to come up with any hard proof?

For the record it was closer than I anticipated. I will be sure to totally ignore polls in 2024.