Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

My contention is that when you have to proclaim demonstrably false facts to maintain your belief, that is Cultish behavior.

That's not a bad definition. Anybody who against all the evidence: the multiple recounts, the audits, the 65 or so court cases, still thinks Trump won the election is a fully committed cult member.

If the cap fits...

[TheDemonLord]

Which one would you put money on ... as to being (more) correct. Pritch or Hussy .. ?? In my book ... both descriptions are pretty much the same thing.

All my opponents tend to have a nugget of Truth to the claims - where we differ is what happens to that Nugget of Truth. My point of view is that the reasonable critique gets warped out of all reasonableness by a politically motivated media - and there are a myriad of objective instances of this - see the 'Insurrection' (deliberately editing out certain parts of the speech) 'All Mexicans are rapists' (Omitting the previous remark that was referencing directly MS13 Gang members) and other such instances.

So to my view, neither of them are Correct because they have moved so far from what happened due to an ideological hatred.

Various (so called) religious groups proclaim all sorts of "Stuff" to their believers ... that to the unbeliever ... is just bullshit.

YOU "Proclaim" all sorts of bullshit to try to make a point. Are you a cult .. ?? You do seem to proclaim all sorts of bullshit ...

The truth to one group ... are just lies to another group.

With the Economy however, we actually have some hard data - that right up until Covid, the US economy was the strongest it had been since the post-war boom (that's a pretty damn good watermark) and despite the 'inheritied from Obama' rhetorhic - we have the data that show Trump doubled what Obama had managed.

At this point you come to a junction - If you are a reasonable person with a reasonable dislike of Trump, you might say things like:

"Sure the numbers say the Economy was good, but at what cost?" or other similar things - recognizing the undeniably true element, whilst providing a reasoned critique.

However, we see a lot of flat-out denial - see the 'Inhereted from Obama' Narrative that the data does not support. I myself shy-away from the term - but this is what was loosely called 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' - unsupported and irrational hatred of Trump. Another case in point - the 'Kids in Cages' story - again a complete media fabrication (The image wasn't what it was claimed to be) and it turns out the policy was one that was implemented by Obama.

Or perhaps you would take for example the claims about Antifa and BLM - I seem to recall a thread where Pritch wasn't aware that Antifa predated Trump's presidency by quite some margin - again these are objective facts, backed by hard data that are flat-out denied because it contradicts a certain narrative.

So when I point to this behavior and ridicule it as being as Cult-like as whatever it is I'm claimed to be doing - it's not without reason.

And if you were to draw parrallels between old-school christianity and the modern 'woke' left - you have a number of eerie parrallels

Excommunication = deplatforming/Cancel Culture
Satan = Trump
Original Sin = Slavery/Empire/Colonisation or simply being White
Recieved Knowledge = Intersectionality/CRT/Marxism
Rosary Prayers = Protest Chants

Etc.

As for me - if you think I post a lot of shit - as always, The price of Admission is Free and you get what you Pay for. Am I exhibiting Cult-Like behavior? The one problem with that accusation is as per below:

And for any person or group to continue in their beliefs ... that is their choice. And unless their actions are illegal in the Country they're in ... they are entitled to hold their beliefs.

Just another benefit of a free society I guess ...

And a cult can have a basis in a religious form ... OR ... a person (or thing) that is popular (or fashionable) among a particular group or section of society. For example ... a Rugby team. Or team Captain even. Was Ritchie McCaw a cult Leader .. ??

Ever heard of "Cult following" and "Cult Branding" .. ??? (Do you know the difference .. ??)

Sure and I've been on record of being a staunch supporter of Free speech - even championing people who I vehemently disagree with on issues where I support their right to speak, whilst vigorously critiquing what they say.

Championing the voices of those you disagree with, because you hold their right to speak as sacrosanct as your own right is the very polar opposite of Cult-Like behavior.

I've also been on record of vigorously disagreeing with someone in one thread about a topic, whilst simultaneously praising their virtues in another thread - again, very un Cult-like.

[TheDemonLord]

That's not a bad definition. Anybody who against all the evidence: the multiple recounts, the audits, the 65 or so court cases, still thinks Trump won the election is a fully committed cult member.

If the cap fits...

I've never outright said I think Trump won - I've said there are a large number of statistical anomolies (Again, we have 150 years of Voting data to compare to, so a pretty good sample size to reference).

There is a difference between being able to prove beyond all reasonable doubt exactly what happened and saying 'these factors and subsequent actions cast doubt'.

[husaberg]

That's not a bad definition. Anybody who against all the evidence: the multiple recounts, the audits, the 65 or so court cases, still thinks Trump won the election is a fully committed cult member.

If the cap fits...

we all know he wears that maga cap with pride.

it's funny how no matter how damning or overwhelming the evidence TLDR still claims he knows better.
A trait all the trump supporters share with their mediocre leader. Captain Lysol hydroxychloroquine combover

[sugilite:Me]

You're half-right, Wife is back at work and until her schedule gets fixed and we can update Daycare - I'm using my Works Flexi-time

I guess you needed a work break huh

Trump wasn't much of a public figure in the early 00s really before the Apprentice started (2004) - which is after they were acquitted - I stand by the point that at that time, that was over 10 years ago - did he even remember that he had done it?

Surely a stable genius would remember taking out a full page calling for the death of five human beings?

It's being brought up now as ammo against Trump's Political Career, which is why I'm linking it in that manner.

Yes, you must protect that perfectly nice mr trump. I'm sure he would not do the same back to his opponents

The problem I have is with your framing - you want to take the reasonable and literal interpretation of 'I'll be right there with you' as in physically there.

That - is completely fair enough - and on that basis you want me to concede that saying he will be physically there and not being there is poor leadership.

However, in order for me to accept your very reasonable and literal interpretation of the quote you take umbrage with, I - in return - get to insist on you also taking the reasonable and literal interpretation of the Quote that I have raised - namely 'Peacefully and patriotically'

So if you want me to concede Poor Leadership (which even given the above - it's a reasonable conjecture that seeing what was happening - leading the Protest might have aggravated things) then you must also concede that from his words there was no attempt at insurrection or riot and that the message was plain.

I don't think you will do this as you have your opinion formed on other related factors and as such, You will also have to grant me the same leeway that you grant yourself.

It must be so tiring being a trump apologist lol. So after loftily telling me previously I had asked the question that you did not see the two things as being connected, you now want to hook the wagon back up and link them again to win a point - hilarious! I knew the spin was going to be epic, but dang man, I'm resting easy that NZ will make it through this winter with plenty of electricity - all we need to do is ask you a tricky Trump question and hook that spin machine up to the grid!

So again, our genius riles up the crowd for an hour or so, mentions fight about 100 times and peacefully once, and he did not think that the angry crowd was going to hang onto his one utterance and not the other hundred or more - in my opinion a shrewd get out of jail card. Oh, our genius also forgot to tack the word "in spirit" to the I'll be there right along side you. Sloppy genius huh. You invoke Thatcher and Churchill below somewhere. I have no doubt both would absolutely despise the cowardly weasel trump. Both would likely quite cheerfully slit trumps throat.

The Media coverage though isn't a reliable Metric - as they have a vested interest.

Both sides of propoganda central rreported on damn near every tweet that twerp made, now crickets. Haha!

But here's the serious question for you - consider all the Trump supporters - do you think that if he goes away they will stop holding the beliefs that made them like Trump in the first place?

No (this is what a simple answer looks like)

when it comes to the actual BIG things - the things that get written down, get implemented into Policy, as opposed to off-the-cuff remarks - those things, I've found him to be more honest than most politicians.

Trump is a serial liar, big small and everything in between

From my point of view, I would say he took a risk, it's one of the things I like about Trump - that he does take risks - The Covid one did backfire.

Well, it was just a little backfire that killed only thousands of the people he was charged with protecting. He totally does deserve a free pass - to the gallows.

I've said elsewhere I'd prefer Trump's handling over Jacindas and as above.

Yes, Trumps bury the head in the sand, downplay a pandemic and kill thousands largely to appease a narcissistic ego would be the preferred response.

Biden is an example of everything that is wrong with Career Politicians.

Still better than Trump. FFS the man ripped off millions from his supporter suckers with recurring payments on their cards, burying that little nugget in a tiny font - many pages into a disclaimer - classy leader right there


I'll leave you to the fruitless task of bailing out the good ship SS trump, pity he only gave you a sieve to do the job. It does not alter the level of swamp water in the boat, but does catch all the trump turds. Like I said earlier, being a Trump apologist must be such hard bloody yakka.

[pritch]

A read of the blog, "From the desk of Donald J Trump" is depressing. There is very little connection with reality. I doubt this item was written by Trump. He knows nothing of such things, understands less, and is only semi literate so can't spell. The spelling mistake and misplaced capitals may have been included for effect.

Remember, this is the guy who canned an international memorial service in Europe because he might have got his hair wet.

Donald J. Trump
8:47am May 31, 2021
On this Memorial Day, we remember the fallen heroes who took their last breaths in defense of our Nation, our families, our citizens, and our sacred freedoms. The depth of their devotion, the steel of their resolve, and the purity of their patriotism has no equal in human history. On distant battlefields, in far-off oceans, and high in the skies above, they faced down our enemies and gave their lives so that America would prevail. They made the supreme sacrifice so that our people can live in safety and our Nation can thrive in peace. It is because of their gallantry that we can together, as one people, continue our pursuit of America’s glorious destiny.

We owe all that we are, and everything we ever hope to be, to these unrivaled heroes. Their memory and their legacy is immortal. Our loyalty to them and to their families is eternal and everlasting.

America’s warriors are the single greatest force for justice, peace, liberty, and security among all the nations ever to exist on earth. God bless our fallen Soldiers, Sailors, Coast Guardsmen, Airmen, and Marines. We honor them today, forever, and always.

[TheDemonLord]

Surely a stable genius would remember taking out a full page calling for the death of five human beings?

Do you remember everything you did 10 years ago? I mean - sure to us taking out a spread in a Major Newspaper would be a momentus event, but to someone like Trump, it probably barely registered on the richter scale.

It must be so tiring being a trump apologist lol. So after loftily telling me previously I had asked the question that you did not see the two things as being connected, you now want to hook the wagon back up and link them again to win a point - hilarious! I knew the spin was going to be epic, but dang man, I'm resting easy that NZ will make it through this winter with plenty of electricity - all we need to do is ask you a tricky Trump question and hook that spin machine up to the grid!

So again, our genius riles up the crowd for an hour or so, mentions fight about 100 times and peacefully once, and he did not think that the angry crowd was going to hang onto his one utterance and not the other hundred or more - in my opinion a shrewd get out of jail card. Oh, our genius also forgot to tack the word "in spirit" to the I'll be there right along side you. Sloppy genius huh. You invoke Thatcher and Churchill below somewhere. I have no doubt both would absolutely despise the cowardly weasel trump. Both would likely quite cheerfully slit trumps throat.

Each time Fight is mentioned It is well within the bounds of what is and has been considered standard Political Rhetorhic in the US. It is neither out of the ordinary or beyond the pail, it is bog standard Political speech. The one sentance where a directive to the crowd is given, it is very clearly and unambigiously clarified.

All I'm saying is I want you to uphold the same standards on both sides - if you insist on a very literal interpretation to invoke an admonishment of Trump on part - that's fair enough, so long as you also hold yourself to that very literal interpretation and concede no insurrection.

But as I said - you won't and so neither will I.

As for Churchill and Thatcher - I think they would have gotten on with Trump rather well. Both of them despised all forms of Marxism and both of them were almost prescient when it came to the Evils of that particular Ideology.

Both sides of propoganda central rreported on damn near every tweet that twerp made, now crickets. Haha!

Except the more independent news sources (the ones that I tend to follow) it's still being referenced, perhaps not as much as his Twitter account - but again, early days and without User interaction.

No (this is what a simple answer looks like)

And now for the complex question - What do you suppose happens to them?

Trump is a serial liar, big small and everything in between

See, on the Big stuff - like his Policies, he carried out the main ones that he campaigned on:

Strong Economy - Yep
Wall - Yep
Curb illegal Immigration - Yep
America First, everyone else second - Yep

Everything else is mostly background noise.

Well, it was just a little backfire that killed only thousands of the people he was charged with protecting. He totally does deserve a free pass - to the gallows.

See my previous comments about State's individual rights - I've conceded previously that I'd like to have seen a more proactive stance from the Federal level, but if you look at things like Cuomo's handling in New York (especially the rest homes) - there is enough scope to distribute parts of the blame more evenly.

Yes, Trumps bury the head in the sand, downplay a pandemic and kill thousands largely to appease a narcissistic ego would be the preferred response.

I'll take having my Freedoms maintained and allowing myself to choose the level of risk I am comfortable with, over having my rights illegally taken away.

Any day of the week.

Still better than Trump. FFS the man ripped off millions from his supporter suckers with recurring payments on their cards, burying that little nugget in a tiny font - many pages into a disclaimer - classy leader right there

See, let's talk about the framing of this for a second - nearly every subscription AND donation service that I'm signed up to By Default sets up the payment as recurring.

If this was completely unheard of and only Trump did it, I might concede your point - but this is very very very very very common, to the point of Normality.

And in terms of what better - put it this way - Trump did more things (good and bad) for America in 4 years than Biden did in 40. All the while it's rather clear that Biden has used his political standing to his betterment. I'm not going to say it's outright corruption because on the face of it, it's within the bounds of low-level nepotism that is impossible to avoid - it still stands that he, as a career politician, has done nothing but ride the Gravy Train.

I'll leave you to the fruitless task of bailing out the good ship SS trump, pity he only gave you a sieve to do the job. It does not alter the level of swamp water in the boat, but does catch all the trump turds. Like I said earlier, being a Trump apologist must be such hard bloody yakka.

It would be hard work if the critiques were fair and honest, but so many of them quite simply aren't - which makes it rather easy.

[TheDemonLord]

A read of the blog, "From the desk of Donald J Trump" is depressing. There is very little connection with reality. I doubt this item was written by Trump. He knows nothing of such things, understands less, and is only semi literate so can't spell. The spelling mistake and misplaced capitals may have been included for effect.

Remember, this is the guy who canned an international memorial service in Europe because he might have got his hair wet.

Donald J. Trump
8:47am May 31, 2021
On this Memorial Day, we remember the fallen heroes who took their last breaths in defense of our Nation, our families, our citizens, and our sacred freedoms. The depth of their devotion, the steel of their resolve, and the purity of their patriotism has no equal in human history. On distant battlefields, in far-off oceans, and high in the skies above, they faced down our enemies and gave their lives so that America would prevail. They made the supreme sacrifice so that our people can live in safety and our Nation can thrive in peace. It is because of their gallantry that we can together, as one people, continue our pursuit of America’s glorious destiny.

We owe all that we are, and everything we ever hope to be, to these unrivaled heroes. Their memory and their legacy is immortal. Our loyalty to them and to their families is eternal and everlasting.

America’s warriors are the single greatest force for justice, peace, liberty, and security among all the nations ever to exist on earth. God bless our fallen Soldiers, Sailors, Coast Guardsmen, Airmen, and Marines. We honor them today, forever, and always.

Well 2 things here - firstly - There you go Sugilite - seems I'm not the only one who visits Trump's Desk

But to Pritch - before you go poking at Trump, let's just remember the words of the VP Kamala Harris....

"Enjoy the Long Weekend"

[husaberg]

A read of the blog, "From the desk of Donald J Trump" is depressing. There is very little connection with reality. I doubt this item was written by Trump. He knows nothing of such things, understands less, and is only semi literate so can't spell. The spelling mistake and misplaced capitals may have been included for effect.

Remember, this is the guy who canned an international memorial service in Europe because he might have got his hair wet.

Donald J. Trump

Is memorial day when the Trumpist celebrate the US revoltutionary war airforce?

[Stylo]

Is memorial day when the Trumpist celebrate the US revoltutionary war airforce?

Thanks for reminding me of how much of a fucking idiot Trump used to be as the POTUS .

If he appiled for a job at a Supermarket today he'd struggle to get the trolley pusher job.

Trump can't even string two words together coherently. The people that support this idiot need some help.

Give me a break...

[pritch]

Trump's much touted new media empire which turned out to be a humble blog has apparently closed. You can leave your email address at the site so as to receive "EXCLUSIVE updates" which would doubtless turn out to be requests for money.

In other news, Trump's Washington DC hotel is for sale. That's of interest mainly because he doesn't own the building. He only leases it. Perhaps it's not so profitable now that people who wish to see the president don't have to stay there to guarantee access.

Oh, and Trump and his sycophants are saying he will be reinstated as president in August.

[sugilite:Me]

Do you remember everything you did 10 years ago? I mean - sure to us taking out a spread in a Major Newspaper would be a momentous event, but to someone like Trump, it probably barely registered on the richter scale.

He is a self professed stable genius, and I'm sure seeing them exonerated would of triggered his memory.
Your free pass for him in this matter is beneath you good sir.

Each time Fight is mentioned It is well within the bounds of what is and has been considered standard Political Rhetorhic in the US. It is neither out of the ordinary or beyond the pail, it is bog standard Political speech. The one sentance where a directive to the crowd is given, it is very clearly and unambigiously clarified.

All I'm saying is I want you to uphold the same standards on both sides - if you insist on a very literal interpretation to invoke an admonishment of Trump on part - that's fair enough, so long as you also hold yourself to that very literal interpretation and concede no insurrection.

I've never spoken much about the "insurrection" as such. I viewed it more as he wound up a angry mob and send them down the road for a bout of disorganized carnage - which is exactly what happened. I feel he exceeded his wildest dreams on the outcome, but would of been well satisfied at his job well done. Again, all this nuanced bullshit you refer too shoots across the average maga wacker head. They did not sit behind a keyboard pondering the ways of their leaders words like you. they were there, got caught up in the heat of the moment and charged at their leaders request. An utterance of one word that was the only single opposition to the many thousands of fighting words stood no chance of getting in their brains - no matter how desperate you are to defend your position at all cost. They just heard march, march, fight, fight,fight. So they did, just without their spineless leader who probably had a bad flare up of his heel spurs

But as I said - you won't and so neither will I.

Sorry old boy, I'm claiming the win, you cannot argue both sides of the same coin. The answer even including your play both sides arguments - either he just deliberately mislead them, or "forgot" to add in "In Spirit". Either way - poor leadership. Suck it up.

As for Churchill and Thatcher - I think they would have gotten on with Trump rather well. Both of them despised all forms of Marxism and both of them were almost prescient when it came to the Evils of that particular Ideology.

whilst they may have kinda shared hate for marxism, there is absolutely no way either would of respected a cretin like Trump. And I'm sure you know it, disagreeing with someone is like a gag reflex for you.

Except the more independent news sources (the ones that I tend to follow) it's still being referenced, perhaps not as much as his Twitter account - but again, early days and without User interaction.

This is absolutely bloody delicious, you just got rodgered by your own idol.
He just closed his blog due to low numbers Bwah ha ha ha!
This brings your previous comments this week into sharp focus. You are willing to argue unlikely and at best overoptimistic points when hard facts are in plain sight. Your outlandish justifications and free passes have been exposed for what they are in this case. I predict this will be far from the last time Trump will serve you bitter humble pie moments on his ever accelerating descent into irrelevancy and his legacy of being the worst president in US history takes a concrete hold in the annals of history.

And now for the complex question - What do you suppose happens to them?

Pffft, complex - surely you jest? It is easy, they hook up their wagons to the next republican arsehole, like cruz, whorely or gaetz.

See, on the Big stuff - like his Policies, he carried out the main ones that he campaigned on:

Strong Economy - Yep
Wall - Yep
Curb illegal Immigration - Yep
America First, everyone else second - Yep

Everything else is mostly background noise.

Meh, he took action only on the lower hanging fruit policies that could be implemented via tweets.
Though his amazing health plan to replace obama care was impressive. Oh that's right, despite him making his multitude of election promises, not only did he fail to repeal obamacare, he never had a replacement for it either - well other than trumpdontcare. What a chump. To hard to work it out by tweet, so into the too hard basket it went

See my previous comments about State's individual rights - I've conceded previously that I'd like to have seen a more proactive stance from the Federal level, but if you look at things like Cuomo's handling in New York (especially the rest homes) - there is enough scope to distribute parts of the blame more evenly.

Cuomo should be made to lie in a bed of his own faeces for a week then jailed for his handling of rest homes in particular. He should join Trump at either the gallows or in solitary in a super max for life right along side Trump. At either location specified works for me. Balanced enough for you?

I'll take having my Freedoms maintained and allowing myself to choose the level of risk I am comfortable with, over having my rights illegally taken away.

Any day of the week.

Unless you died from covid following your leaders shitty suggestions, then your just a buffet for the worms eh. But I'm sure the worms will taste that freedom you value so highly

See, let's talk about the framing of this for a second - nearly every subscription AND donation service that I'm signed up to By Default sets up the payment as recurring.

If this was completely unheard of and only Trump did it, I might concede your point - but this is very very very very very common, to the point of Normality.

Why yes indeed, lets do talk about framing - your framing.
In the text above you correctly point out subscriptions are very very very very very common. As a WordPress site developer, I have dozens and dozens of bloody plugin subscriptions, and others types of subs too.
What your framing deliberately misses out is how they always tell you at the shopping cart you are opting in to a subscription, and 19 times out of twenty send you an email stating as much and giving instructions on how to cancel said subscription. They DO NOT bury it in a tiny font deep in the lengthy small print. Oh, nor do they charge my card MULTIPLE TIMES over a one month period. This is yet another example of the lengths of fact suppression you will go to in order to freshly mint yet another free pass for Trump.
So now I have closed your framing with the rest of the subscription facts, that should keep your free pass for trump bullshit well contained.

Well 2 things here - firstly - There you go Sugilite - seems I'm not the only one who visits Trump's Desk

But who got the last laugh sport?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...ership-numbers
Again Bwah ha ha ha!

[TheDemonLord]

He is a self professed stable genius, and I'm sure seeing them exonerated would of triggered his memory.
Your free pass for him in this matter is beneath you good sir.

I initially stated 'Statute of Limitations' - I've agreed that an apology would be proper, but I've also stated given the time scales, it's an unreasonable critique.

I've never spoken much about the "insurrection" as such. I viewed it more as he wound up a angry mob and send them down the road for a bout of disorganized carnage - which is exactly what happened. I feel he exceeded his wildest dreams on the outcome, but would of been well satisfied at his job well done. Again, all this nuanced bullshit you refer too shoots across the average maga wacker head. They did not sit behind a keyboard pondering the ways of their leaders words like you. they were there, got caught up in the heat of the moment and charged at their leaders request. An utterance of one word that was the only single opposition to the many thousands of fighting words stood no chance of getting in their brains - no matter how desperate you are to defend your position at all cost. They just heard march, march, fight, fight,fight. So they did, just without their spineless leader who probably had a bad flare up of his heel spurs

Sorry old boy, I'm claiming the win, you cannot argue both sides of the same coin. The answer even including your play both sides arguments - either he just deliberately mislead them, or "forgot" to add in "In Spirit". Either way - poor leadership. Suck it up.

Then you are also playing both sides of the same coin, Claim the win if you want - but I'll still claim the bigger win: Acquitted

whilst they may have kinda shared hate for marxism, there is absolutely no way either would of respected a cretin like Trump. And I'm sure you know it, disagreeing with someone is like a gag reflex for you.

I'm sure Sir Winston would have mocked Trump liberally on his speaking manner.

But both of them would have seen the rot that Trump was trying to curb and would have supported his efforts. Thatcher was pointing out that the Intersectional Feminist Radicals of the 1980s were wholly Marxists, which in turn lead to the Critical Race Theory that Trump was busy trying to curtail - they would have agreed on quite a lot.

This is absolutely bloody delicious, you just got rodgered by your own idol.
He just closed his blog due to low numbers Bwah ha ha ha!
This brings your previous comments this week into sharp focus. You are willing to argue unlikely and at best overoptimistic points when hard facts are in plain sight. Your outlandish justifications and free passes have been exposed for what they are in this case. I predict this will be far from the last time Trump will serve you bitter humble pie moments on his ever accelerating descent into irrelevancy and his legacy of being the worst president in US history takes a concrete hold in the annals of history.

You forget, however, that the Blog was never an issue I particularly cared about.

I was happy to give it time - but you'll note I did say that without user interaction it was going to be hampered.

Pffft, complex - surely you jest? It is easy, they hook up their wagons to the next republican arsehole, like cruz, whorely or gaetz.

Possibly, I'm not so sure, I think that the Trump brand of Republicanism is going to have a few very interesting waves.

You've seen the rift between the RINOs, those that crossed the floor etc. and those that supported Trump - I see a lot of parrallels between that and what happened in the Conservative Party in the UK over Brexit.

Meh, he took action only on the lower hanging fruit policies that could be implemented via tweets.
Though his amazing health plan to replace obama care was impressive. Oh that's right, despite him making his multitude of election promises, not only did he fail to repeal obamacare, he never had a replacement for it either - well other than trumpdontcare. What a chump. To hard to work it out by tweet, so into the too hard basket it went

Ah yes, because doubling the Economy growth is easy...

As for American Healthcare - yeah, for all the issues the NHS/DHBs have (never enough funding etc.) I agree that a social health care system has such an overall net-positive outcome that it's better than the alternative.

Cuomo should be made to lie in a bed of his own faeces for a week then jailed for his handling of rest homes in particular. He should join Trump at either the gallows or in solitary in a super max for life right along side Trump. At either location specified works for me. Balanced enough for you?

I'll take it

Unless you died from covid following your leaders shitty suggestions, then your just a buffet for the worms eh. But I'm sure the worms will taste that freedom you value so highly

Freedom to Die from my own stupidity is the ultimate Freedom.

Why yes indeed, lets do talk about framing - your framing.
In the text above you correctly point out subscriptions are very very very very very common. As a WordPress site developer, I have dozens and dozens of bloody plugin subscriptions, and others types of subs too.
What your framing deliberately misses out is how they always tell you at the shopping cart you are opting in to a subscription, and 19 times out of twenty send you an email stating as much and giving instructions on how to cancel said subscription. They DO NOT bury it in a tiny font deep in the lengthy small print. Oh, nor do they charge my card MULTIPLE TIMES over a one month period. This is yet another example of the lengths of fact suppression you will go to in order to freshly mint yet another free pass for Trump.
So now I have closed your framing with the rest of the subscription facts, that should keep your free pass for trump bullshit well contained.

Okay, let me try a different tack:

LinkedIn
Microsoft Azure
Netflix
Spotify
Any Adult Website
etc.

All operate on the same business model - Sign up for a free trial, we just need a credit card to validate you are real....

(If you don't cancel the subscription, we'll just start charging you)

Is it a scummy business practice? Sure.
Is it something unique to Trump that only he does and therefore deserves criticism? Absolutely not.

But who got the last laugh sport?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...ership-numbers
Again Bwah ha ha ha!

We'll see...

Given that Facebook and Twitter et al were once banning people for discussion whether or not Covid came from the Lab at Wuhan (when Trump said he thought it did), to Dr Fauci doing yet another 180 recently and saying it looks like it came from the Lab - those people who were banned/censured/etc. for discussing something that now seems more likely to be true have a justified grievance.

If he does follow through on an actual Social Media platform, it will be interesting to see.

[pritch]

Bwah ha ha ha!

Indeed.

[R650R]

Trump's much touted new media empire which turned out to be a humble blog has apparently closed. You can leave your email address at the site so as to receive "EXCLUSIVE updates" which would doubtless turn out to be requests for money.

In other news, Trump's Washington DC hotel is for sale. That's of interest mainly because he doesn't own the building. He only leases it. Perhaps it's not so profitable now that people who wish to see the president don't have to stay there to guarantee access.

Oh, and Trump and his sycophants are saying he will be reinstated as president in August.

Quite a common business model to buy a lease for x amount of years and run a company or faculty onsite.

His book has really good insight to how these big deals work