The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[TheDemonLord]

Gulf War one was widely regarded in military circles as WW3 due to scale, multi nation involvement and complex logistics. Although the media made it look easy perhaps Saddam had some good gear and in large numbers. And it wasn’t till first bombing raids that the RAF found out the true extent of massive anti air defences....

It was realistically restricted to one region. Sure there was Global involvement, but the Invasion of Iraq would be a footnote in something like the North Africa Campaign, which itself is a chapter in WW2.

And despite having a deep interest in Military history - this is the first time I've ever heard of the Gulf War being even tangentially referred to as WW3.

[sugilite:Me]

It was realistically restricted to one region. Sure there was Global involvement, but the Invasion of Iraq would be a footnote in something like the North Africa Campaign, which itself is a chapter in WW2.

And despite having a deep interest in Military history - this is the first time I've ever heard of the Gulf War being even tangentially referred to as WW3.

Yep, it was more like oil grab 3.

[F5 Dave]

So where's my cheaper oil?

[TheDemonLord]

So where's my cheaper oil?

Back in 1994

(I remember when it was a Dollar a Litre, and we complained when it got to a $1.20....)

[pete376403]

Back in 1994

(I remember when it was a Dollar a Litre, and we complained when it got to a $1.20....)

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I remember when the owner of the Chrysler dealership I worked at said "people will never pay more than a dollar per gallon".Those were the days ('72 ish) when the Valiant Charger A84 track pack option included a 35 gallon fuel tank. 132 litres of premium today, near $400 to fill

[R650R]

Saddam would have carried on into Saudi Arabia, steam rolled them and then controlled 65% of world production.....
So your oils cheaper than what that outcome would have rendered.....

I ran a small servo back when petrol was 86 cents litre. Whatever crisis in the world was happening had ended and price was fropping to 83.... we hadn’t dropped our price yet ... I remember a customer shrieking to stop halfway thru his massive $20 purchase when he saw ourvpump still set to 86!!!!!
I think our diesel was around 46-49 cents and we did lot of trucks

[TheDemonLord]

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I remember when the owner of the Chrysler dealership I worked at said "people will never pay more than a dollar per gallon".Those were the days ('72 ish) when the Valiant Charger A84 track pack option included a 35 gallon fuel tank. 132 litres of premium today, near $400 to fill

*A moments silence for your Fuel Bill*

[TheDemonLord]

Saddam would have carried on into Saudi Arabia, steam rolled them and then controlled 65% of world production.....
So your oils cheaper than what that outcome would have rendered.....

I ran a small servo back when petrol was 86 cents litre. Whatever crisis in the world was happening had ended and price was fropping to 83.... we hadn’t dropped our price yet ... I remember a customer shrieking to stop halfway thru his massive $20 purchase when he saw ourvpump still set to 86!!!!!
I think our diesel was around 46-49 cents and we did lot of trucks

Hmmmm Saddamn or Saudi.

That's a tough moral question if ever I saw one.

[R650R]

Too many people are beginning to talk the truth so media and medical establishment trying to spin themselves out of a hole....

There needs to be a full investigation into ALL “covid” deaths and whether they were FROM or WITH deaths.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/expla...t-be-clear-cut

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/healt...ommunity-cases

[pete376403]

Saddam would have carried on into Saudi Arabia, steam rolled them and then controlled 65% of world production.....
So your oils cheaper than what that outcome would have rendered.....

Saddam never had any aspiration to occupy Saudi Arabia. Kuwait was alway the end game, it was always the intention get Kuwait back to being part of Iraq Much like Putin and Ukraine today.

[F5 Dave]

And Saudi then was both much better armed and aligned with the US. But dont expect clever insight from R666.

[FJRider]

Too many people are beginning to talk the truth so media and medical establishment trying to spin themselves out of a hole....

There needs to be a full investigation into ALL “covid” deaths and whether they were FROM or WITH deaths.

Did you note ...

At first glance, “with Covid” and “because of Covid” looks like a simple binary, but keep in mind the virus can worsen existing or underlying conditions

If a Covid variant was the "Tipping point" that finally caused the death ... then it would be fair to say Covid was the cause of death.

And "Underlying medical conditions" are not always in the domain of "Elderly".

Government policy regarding Covid deaths ...

Includes all cases that died who were classified as an active case of COVID-19 at the time of death. In some of these cases, the underlying cause of death may have been unrelated to COVID

In most reported covid related deaths ... those having underlying conditions relating to the death ... is mentioned as such. In other words ... such causes of death are reported correctly .. AS HAVING underlying conditions at the time of death.

There are varying opinions relating to the importance of actual cause of death. However ... with policy/regulation/privacy issues ... it is usually to follow the preferences of the family involved as to what is reported as being cause of death.

A change of policy ... to always stating the actual cause of death ... might mean some embarrassment in the future to a few still living.

That is to say ... if their cause of death is publicly notified as being of a venereal disease ... the families involved might not be so happy about "Policy".

Be careful what you ask for ... you might get it.

[FJRider]

Saddam never had any aspiration to occupy Saudi Arabia. Kuwait was alway the end game, it was always the intention get Kuwait back to being part of Iraq Much like Putin and Ukraine today.

Saudi Arabia had the backing of the US ... and the finances ... firepower ... and freedom to kick Saddam's ass into the middle of nowhere.

As you say .. Kuwait was always the target.

But the US needed an excuse. And ... Saddam gave them one.



Only one excuse was needed.

[F5 Dave]

SadAdam had been stealing Kuwait oil and quietly murdering his own people unopposed. He could have still been doing that to his heart's content if he'd just played the game like a successful Despot.

[FJRider]

Hmmmm Saddamn or Saudi.

That's a tough moral question if ever I saw one.

Not a difficult choice for the smart ones ... the US have military air bases in Saudi. THEN and NOW.

And NOT including the Saudi's own forces.


All gassed up and ready to go.


The chants there at the time was ... Bring it on Saddam.