The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[TheDemonLord]

If I may quote the Stuff article? "People love a conspiracy theory, especially one playing out in real time on social media."

I'm very much on the Bill Maher position on this, referring to the Lab Leak as a Conspiracy is (at this point) absurd.

Doesn't mean it's true, just that there's enough evidence that it is plausible.

[neels]

I'm very much on the Bill Maher position on this, referring to the Lab Leak as a Conspiracy is (at this point) absurd.

Doesn't mean it's true, just that there's enough evidence that it is plausible.

I think given that the actual source has not been identified, it's as good a theory as any, so should not be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

Not that it actually makes any difference, regardless of how nobody is ever likely to find out anyway.

[TheDemonLord]

I think given that the actual source has not been identified, it's as good a theory as any, so should not be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

Not that it actually makes any difference, regardless of how nobody is ever likely to find out anyway.

It's just another instance of something that whilst may or may not be true at a particular point in time had more than enough circumstantial evidence to be plausible.

Yet was declared verboten and any mention of it on Social Media was grounds for censure, any public reference was derided as Conspiracy (see the original quote) despite the obvious.

[pritch]

I think given that the actual source has not been identified, it's as good a theory as any, so should not be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

Not that it actually makes any difference, regardless of how nobody is ever likely to find out anyway.

Hard to say. Apparently the outbreak of the Spanish Flu of a century ago was traced to a pig farm in Kansas. How they'd do that I have no idea.

[TheDemonLord]

Hard to say. Apparently the outbreak of the Spanish Flu of a century ago was traced to a pig farm in Kansas. How they'd do that I have no idea.

There is much debate as to whether it came from there - however the first documented case was in Kansas, in a Military barracks and subsequent genome sequencing (later on in the 20th century) confirmed it's source from Pigs - and there was a pig farm that supplied the Military barracks where the first documented case was.

Hence the theory it originated from there.

Not very iron-clad, but still fascinating bit of detective work.

[R650R]

What “science” had to say in 1999...

https://rumble.com/v1dl3lb-fauci-fla...e-in-1999.html

Anthony Fauci on the AIDS vaccine in 1999:

"You take it and then a year goes by and everybody is fine. And then you say, okay that's good, now let's give it to 500 people, and then a year goes by and everything is fine. Well now let's give it to thousands of people and then you find out that it takes twelve years for all hell to break loose and then what have you done?"

[R650R]

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/09/pe...one-knows-why/

[pete376403]

What “science” had to say in 1999...

https://rumble.com/v1dl3lb-fauci-fla...e-in-1999.html

Anthony Fauci on the AIDS vaccine in 1999:

"You take it and then a year goes by and everybody is fine. And then you say, okay that's good, now let's give it to 500 people, and then a year goes by and everything is fine. Well now let's give it to thousands of people and then you find out that it takes twelve years for all hell to break loose and then what have you done?"

Hmmm. Google that phrase and the only place it show is conspiracy / anti vax and the like sites.

[george formby]

Hmmm. Google that phrase and the only place it show is conspiracy / anti vax and the like sites.

Yup, situation normal in the alternative reality.

[R650R]

Hmmm. Google that phrase and the only place it show is conspiracy / anti vax and the like sites.

Are you agreeing with conspiracy theorists then that mainstream news won’t report stuff that does t fit their narrative. Watch the vid and see the man himself say it....

Anyhow Jackie has finally read the temp of the room and moved to scrap masks and traffic light system. Absolutely nothing to do with an election year approaching and national/act success in polls.
You could see she wasn’t totally thrilled about announcing it either....

[onearmedbandit]

Are you agreeing with conspiracy theorists then that mainstream news won’t report stuff that does t fit their narrative. Watch the vid and see the man himself say it....

Here's the transcript from that show. You won't have to scroll down far to see the quote you posted. And who said it.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2603aids.html

[MarkH]

Here's the transcript from that show. You won't have to scroll down far to see the quote you posted. And who said it.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2603aids.html

Once again proving that R650R is a source of misinformation. Fauci didn't say it. They mention great success of vaccines against viruses, but not so much against retro-viruses in particular - this therefore doesn't apply to coronaviruses like the one that causes Covid 19 (SARS-CoV-2).

I trust the smart people (scientists), not dumb people (R650R)!

[TheDemonLord]

I trust the smart people (scientists), not dumb people (R650R)!

Oh, you mean like Nobel Prize winners like David Baltimore? Those Scientists?

To be clear, I have very little dog in this particular fight and OneArmedBandit posted the correct transcript, it's clear it was a Panel that Fauci was on, but the quote was not from Fauci.

However, the quote was from an actual scientist - in fact an extremely well qualified Scientist - to quote Wikipedia:

Baltimore has profoundly influenced international science, including key contributions to immunology, virology, cancer research, biotechnology, and recombinant DNA research

And so yes, the websites that report it as a Fauci quote should correct it (probably won't) - but in the same breath, although the attribution is slightly incorrect, it was still a statement, made by a Nobel prize winning Scientist who specialized in the relevant fields of study - and as such should be taken seriously.

[pritch]

Watch the vid and see the man himself say it....

I recently listened to an interview with Fauci looking back over his career as he retired. You have one video that says one thing, but you need to understand there will likely be another that says something else. Lessons were learned, things changed.

Fauci was commenting on the early days of the AIDS epidemic. The initial research was proceeding with all the normal caution applied to new medicines. Fauci eventually realised that people were dying in increasing numbers while science moved at snails pace. In response they took the brakes off and put the approval programme on fast forward. Having learned from that experience they could do similar when COVID reared its head.

Some people like to whitter on about the "experimental" mRNA technology. Scientists have been working on that since the 1960s. How long do the idiots want?

In this country we have people who lie to try and make something of the fact that the government intially opposed public wearing masks, then later made it compulsory.
This is supposed to prove something. All it proves is that intially there were not enough masks to go around so the government kept them for medical staff. Whe masks became available then the public wefe told to weat=r them.

All this ant vaxxer and conspiracy bollocks gives the idiots something to think about while they await the return of JFK Jr I guess.

[mulletman]

A snippet of what Bloomfield said about masks back then , dont think availability was the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlr_oBAx3S4