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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post

    The world is in safe hands if these kids lead the way after Musk is gone.
    When I say gone, there is numerous threats on his (Musks) life from many sources, he needs a succession plan to carry on his mission should someone take him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Bill Gates said a 800km single charge Semi Truck is "never" going to happen

    Tesla delivered it's first to customers last week

    It moves of the line the same speed as a car,

    Efficiency carrying 37ton uphill with power and down hill with the same slowing power

    70% charge after 30 minutes

    The first prototype was 5 years ago, I'm confident that
    if the world wasn't locked in cages the last few years (China still is) Tesla would be much further ahead in its mission to wipe out the internal combustion engine.
    So whats the payload for this..... hint its only 15 ton

    How many megachargers are there to fast charge these to advertised times.... 2 that i can find ?
    has this charging speed been verified by independent journalists ...well no we just need to trust elon.....
    What's the range on hilly terrain... oh thats not mentioned ?
    In production now... great, hint its already 5 years past its due date for production....
    Pepsis ordered 100 trucks, .....great but dont they have a fleet of 36,000 trucks in total.....

    ps telma brakes are old news. Also Our old shitter trains here have had regen braking for decades.

    This quarry was the first place i seen a telma being used
    i cant remember what they had them on but they might have been theswinging axel backbone chassis Tatras.
    Electric has its place short hall or in the cities like the old milk floats.....
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/n...dunedin-quarry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    When I say gone, there is numerous threats on his (Musks) life from many sources, he needs a succession plan to carry on his mission should someone take him out.
    I'm not sure the threats are all that credible. After all the guys he is sucking up to are the ones who use terrorist tactics.

    Musk is fond of bullshit. He posts tweets then subsequently deletes them. He has received many millions from various taxpayers without delivering much. He takes personal credit for what the engineers achieve. There is a fine line between how he operates and what a conman does. Too fine.

    He tried very hard to get the US Govt to adopt proprietary Tesla charging systems but they sensibly resisted and used a universal charger.

    He doesn't care much about the Tesla cars and reportedly it shows in the quality. When Tesla makes a profit it's from the sale of carbon credits, not cars.

    Oh, and his big Twitter political interference expose went splat. Complete nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Bill Gates said a 800km single charge Semi Truck is "never" going to happen

    Tesla delivered it's first to customers last week

    It moves of the line the same speed as a car,

    Efficiency carrying 37ton uphill with power and down hill with the same slowing power

    70% charge after 30 minutes

    The first prototype was 5 years ago, I'm confident that
    if the world wasn't locked in cages the last few years (China still is) Tesla would be much further ahead in its mission to wipe out the internal combustion engine.
    A bit of fact checking and real word trucking notes....

    It was not “ carrying” 37 ton it was grossing 37 ton. Spy pics showed a flat deck (major help in economy vs box van or curtains) carrying concrete barriers for test.

    Most NZ big rigs gross 48 ton under the new regulations. That extra 11 ton would really kill the range and maybe cook the motors on NZ hills so donÂ’t expect to see it here soon.
    ItÂ’s common consumer knowledge that running a battery system close to zero constantly shortens itÂ’s lifespan.
    Even if fast charging (something else that kills batteryÂ’s) to 70% is plausible I can tell you that due to many circumstances beyond a drivers control heÂ’s not going to magically be at a fast charge facility at unloading or rest break location.
    The only type of work where this system is useable is likes of amazon/Walmart type work where you own and control the facilities at points of loading and unloading. But very few business operate that model. Even then a lot of their trucks are subcontractors operating small fleets of 10-20 trucks etc.

    Doing high mileage all the road vibration takes its toll, eventually wires will chaff or insulation will breakdown, at 1000V DC that is going to be spectacular! No matter the manufacturer when your doing big kms stuff just breaks time to time.

    Electric Jesus claims a magic windscreen that is unbreakable... wonder if he tested against logging truck thatÂ’s just pulled out of forest spitting rock out of dual tyres at 180km/h closing speed....
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    It was tested on a mountainous roads with a full load, It kept up with cars and still achieved 500 miles

    Pepsi has started to use them, Tesla will start deliveries with there cargo so they can work on any faults,so I guess it remains to be seen

    Still, very impressive and the future is bright for an electrified trucking fleet

    Tesla didn't mention FSD, to political I guess, millions would lose jobs if it happened to fast, a gradual introduction to replace the driving industry should be the best approach, gives time for these drivers to find other work, FSD subscription I would charge on an annual subscription to companies, perhaps 25% of a human annual salary truck driver annual income.

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    Infrastructure is still coming for the semi, hell there's only about 20 or so Tesla semis built, so New Zealand is at best 2 to 5 years away before we see the first Tesla trucks on the state highway 1

    I would presume a combination of Tesla, Private trucking companies (mainfreight etc) private charging contactors and government will start on the Truck charging stations infrastructure around NZ in the next few years.

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    0 to 100km in 20sec , I'm presuming that's a full load, very impressive

    2 kWh per mile energy consumption

    Yes, the savings on fuel would pay for the investment in the Tesla semi in 3 to 5 years.

    81000 lbs pay load

    Again, the big one is FSD or level 5 full self driving "if" this is solved and passed by regulative authorities in a few years, it's game over.

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    Husenberg

    Here's a hint, before you go to mainstream media to be further brainwashed

    Why not

    I don't know, go to the actual source or company that built the truck

    Seriously? How can a news organisation have detailed information on the truck? Did the reporter build the truck?Did mainstream media drive the truck? Was mainstream media a passenger?

    Fully Loaded at 82k lbs Gross Combination Weight

    https://www.tesla.com/semi

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    What's happened to New Zealand

    Some key words jump out at me

    "Never '

    "Impossible "

    "Dreamer "

    "Won't happen "

    "Can't happen "

    What happened to us as a nation? Sir Edmond Hillary,Gene Batten, Bert Munro would be cringing at us today

    Yes Musk is an Autistic South African American billionaire on the other side of the world, but because New Zealand is a nation of haters, there's nobody to aspire too here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Still, very impressive and the future is bright for an electrified trucking fleet
    I've mentioned it before but it fits here. Heard an interview with a Kiwi working in the US on electric trucks. He felt electric cars are not the big fossil fuel savers. Most people only spend a small part of each day in their car. The big savings come in vehicles that are on the road all day. Courier vans, rubbish trucks. or whatever.

    Some of the local rubbish trucks are electric so a start has been made..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I've mentioned it before but it fits here. Heard an interview with a Kiwi working in the US on electric trucks. He felt electric cars are not the big fossil fuel savers. Most people only spend a small part of each day in their car. The big savings come in vehicles that are on the road all day. Courier vans, rubbish trucks. or whatever.

    Some of the local rubbish trucks are electric so a start has been made..
    Yes that is where it makes sense too in that metro stop start environment. A kiwi outfit is already distributing a large hotswappable type battery unit. Still it won’t suit all, you’d be surprised how many kms a decent city trucker can do in a day.

    If musk was any true genius he would have just gone the power train route. Design and build a unit that fits in same physical space as a large 16 litre Cummins or Detroit engine bay, causecreally thsts all that needs changing right?

    Saw a good clip other day, an EV car needs to cover 80,000km beforevits “ offset” the pollution caused by it development and building of new factory etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post

    Saw a good clip other day, an EV car needs to cover 80,000km beforevits “ offset” the pollution caused by it development and building of new factory etc...
    Enjoy

    https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/el...-vehicle-myths

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post

    He doesn't care much about the Tesla cars and reportedly it shows in the quality. When Tesla makes a profit it's from the sale of carbon credits, not cars.

    Complete nonsense.
    Tesla automotive regulatory carbon credits represent "only" 3% of year over year annual revenue

    Most analyst including myself don't add it into there financial forcast because it's so little.

    Download the latest Tesla "share holders deck" Quarterly report

    It's page 4 second line, first line is Automotive revenue

    https://ir.tesla.com/#quarterly-disclosure

    This is also for the lady biker who said I don't research before posting, I own hundreds of thousands of Tesla stock

    I know everything about the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Tesla automotive regulatory carbon credits represent "only" 3% of year over year annual revenue

    Most analyst including myself don't add it into there financial forcast because it's so little.

    Download the latest Tesla "share holders deck" Quarterly report

    It's page 4 second line, first line is Automotive revenue

    https://ir.tesla.com/#quarterly-disclosure

    This is also for the lady biker who said I don't research before posting, I own hundreds of thousands of Tesla stock

    I know everything about the company.
    "everything" is a big word - I would suspect there is a lot Tesla dont make known , even to shareholders.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    "everything" is a big word - I would suspect there is a lot Tesla dont make known , even to shareholders.
    I agree, wrong word, I know everything available to me or the general public, Fucken Tesla hide alot of shit from me

    There employees get first dibs on shares, which is why they hide good news stories that pump the price and Tesla purposely don't deny bullshit stories that pop up all over the fucken place

    It's frustrating as an investor because I know it's bullshit

    But Tesla is looking after it's young engineers to buy the stock at a lower price while the media make up shit

    It's fucken frustrating as an o.g investor watching the share price tank while Tesla plays on it for there employees to get access to a cheaper share price

    But I understand, these young engineers are fucken brilliant, and deserve a larger ownership of the company instead of greedy pricks like me wanting the share price to double as fast as possible.

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