Chain oilers....yes or no

[Laava]

Hold five, I will have to ask the wife.



Edit - Possibly. She threatened to chib me for interrupting the sailing.

I like the cut of her gib!

[1/32 man]

Someone asked what one did I get ....I presume you mean the oiler.

Being on a meagre budget I opted for a Gidibii...which I undertand is a copy of the Cobraa or Nemo2 design. This is operated manually as the rider chooses by rotating the reservoir cap quarter of a turn..
Obviously it is made in China because you get a choice of about ten colours. I chose titanium because my bike is mostly satin grey.
The instructions were confusing to say the least and I admit to looking on youtube to figure out how to fill the reservoir.
The most useless part was the final component which was the piece that directs the dispensing tube to the sprocket...in the end I made one myself from brazing rod and screwed in in place using the swingarm bobbin bolt.

Another short outing today so I will see how it goes....I dont think I will need to turn the reservoir cap for a while yet.

[roogazza]

Never owned one myself but mates have had them.
My rides are 160kms these days, so I spray the chain every second ride.

Two things I do maintenance wise, are tyre pressures and lube the chain...

[BMWST?]

Never owned one myself but mates have had them.
My rides are 160kms these days, so I spray the chain every second ride.

Two things I do maintenance wise, are tyre pressures and lube the chain...

what is your chain lube of choice sir? A t7 maybe in my future(or an Africa twin,or 1250 gs)

[R650R]

I have alwyas thought an enclosed chain would be a great idea for a bike. Tey would lok pretty chunky i guess

Once you start adding all the extra pieces you may as well go shaft drive. An enclosed system probably introduce same problems as shaft drive too in terms of if there’s a problem you can’t see til too late.
Wonder if the chain would get too hot/increased wear with no cooling airflow. If you look at industrial machinery and forklifts working outdoors chain systems are mostly never enclosed just token guards here and there to protect limbs and debris falling on them.
Its the cardinal rule in engineering that simplest option always best.

[BMWST?]

Once you start adding all the extra pieces you may as well go shaft drive. An enclosed system probably introduce same problems as shaft drive too in terms of if there’s a problem you can’t see til too late.
Wonder if the chain would get too hot/increased wear with no cooling airflow. If you look at industrial machinery and forklifts working outdoors chain systems are mostly never enclosed just token guards here and there to protect limbs and debris falling on them.
Its the cardinal rule in engineering that simplest option always best.

Dont agree. in my mind an enclosed chain allows the chain to almost run in an oil bath.The chain enclosure can be completley free at the swingarm pivot/engine cases so there is no transmission of any forces via the enclosure ( some plastic or rubber type bellows seal arrangement)

[pete376403]

Dont agree. in my mind an enclosed chain allows the chain to almost run in an oil bath.The chain enclosure can be completley free at the swingarm pivot/engine cases so there is no transmission of any forces via the enclosure ( some plastic or rubber type bellows seal arrangement)

Old MZs and Jawas used to run full rear chain enclosures. Between that, the lack of power and the oil leakage from the gearbox sprocket shaft, the chains would outlast the bikes

[SaferRides]

Someone asked what one did I get ....I presume you mean the oiler.

Being on a meagre budget I opted for a Gidibii...which I undertand is a copy of the Cobraa or Nemo2 design. This is operated manually as the rider chooses by rotating the reservoir cap quarter of a turn..
Obviously it is made in China because you get a choice of about ten colours. I chose titanium because my bike is mostly satin grey.
The instructions were confusing to say the least and I admit to looking on youtube to figure out how to fill the reservoir.
The most useless part was the final component which was the piece that directs the dispensing tube to the sprocket...in the end I made one myself from brazing rod and screwed in in place using the swingarm bobbin bolt.

Another short outing today so I will see how it goes....I dont think I will need to turn the reservoir cap for a while yet.

I was curious and had a look online. Found a very strange YouTube video showing how to fill the reservoir a number of times, but they are about the price of a can of chain lube. I might order one and have a play.

One question, when do you do the thing with the reservoir cap - does the bike have to be moving? It looks like the oil comes out quickly, so if the bike is stationary, all the oil ends up on a few links of the chain.

Also, what oil should you use? 90 wt gear oil?

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[roogazza]

what is your chain lube of choice sir? A t7 maybe in my future(or an Africa twin,or 1250 gs)

cheers BMWST, using Castrol Chain spray at the mo. Found at your local Repco.

[SaferRides]

I've used the Motul Factory Line stuff for the last 2 years, although I changed to Maxima chain wax recently as I was over trying to keep the rear wheel clean. But I don't think the Maxima penetrates under the rollers very well, so I might change back to Motul and live with regular wheel cleaning.

I tried the Castrol a long time ago, it did the job and was relatively cheap.



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[TheDemonLord]

My God man! So at 6 days a week, 9 months = 25,000 odd km's - you must have been doing horn monos and lighting up the rear tyre at every opportunity!

Haha - I wish, nah, it was the fact that it was all Motorway riding and it was my fat-ass, so the middle section was just getting worn down on the rear.

The edges of the tyre had plenty of life in them, just not enough corners in my commute to spread the load around.

[Moi]

For those who, like me, don't have a chain oiler setup... the plastic bit is from "Grease Ninja" https://greaseninja.com/.

I understand there's a company in Australia that sells them as well.

[F5 Dave]

Golly is this thread still going?

I think I had some duckams, or was that my brother? Long time ago.

I think in the last 20 odd years, proper x ring chains have increased reliability immensely. I got 54,000 on my 675s std chain and only replaced it as it was getting a bit worn and I'd had it's replacement on the shelf for over a year in anticipation.

On tour I now carry a thin piece of wood that hooks over the sw bobbin (on other side of sidestand propping wheeljust off theground) and makes the daily lube (lots of ks in inclement weather) super easy.

My Scottoiler got sold on my RF9 and I never bothered to replace it. Maybe commute bike would be worthwhile, but I'm too close to get my gear on, plus school run.

[nzspokes]

I'm now hot waxing then drip waxing my bicycle chains. Makes the chain, cassette and chainrings last several times longer, and is far cleaner. Needs more faffing, but is worth the trouble.

As somebody that recently retired from being in the bicycle trade and a mechanic for 40 plus years, mate ya dreaming.

Waxing is an old wifes tail that keeps giving.

[FLUB]

As somebody that recently retired from being in the bicycle trade and a mechanic for 40 plus years, mate ya dreaming.

Waxing is an old wifes tail that keeps giving.

In the words of Miyagi-san, "wax on, wax off, wax on, wax off......".


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