Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[R650R]

It was never just a conspiracy. There was election rigging by the Republicans, (gerrymandering are us). There was and is documented Russian interference.

Interestingly a Democrat Congressman has just moved that a vote be held on releasing the Epstein files. The votes against would tell a tale. So much so that I can't believe the Republican Speaker will permit the vote. Which will also tell a tale.

With all the money in Washington politics you can bet it’s not just politicians that might be on that list. Will be interesting to see what happens. Really it should be left with police/fbi to investigate properly. As I understand so far the list is just who might have visited the island it does t mean anyone from either side was there at a time of wrong doing or had knowledge.

[TheDemonLord]

Most Democrat supporters that I've seen comment have said that anybody listed should be prosecuted regardless of party.

So, if that is the case - where was the calls, from the left, to release the Epstein files over the last 5 years? The silence was deafening.

Suddenly, there is division in the Right Wing camp - suddenly the Democrats are calling for release? That is political theatre.

[sugilite:Me]

A trump apologist invoking the term "political theatre"
Cheers for that mate, I needed a laugh this morning. Trump runs the show exactly as a bad reality tv show! Half his cabinet are tv personalities for fucks sake

The dems may be calling for it, but will be secretly praying it does not get released. I would go as far as to say this could possibly be the only bipartisan thing the 2 sides agree on (behind closed doors) as there will be grubs from both sides of the isle on that list, and a fair few celebs too I would assume.

What makes me nervous is what distraction is the orange vomit bag going to come up with to get people off the epstein list? The tariffs replay has not done the trick, bomb some other country instead maybe? What will it be???!!!!

[pritch]

So, if that is the case - where was the calls, from the left, to release the Epstein files over the last 5 years? The silence was deafening.

Suddenly, there is division in the Right Wing camp - suddenly the Democrats are calling for release? That is political theatre.

Only in the extreme right wing press that you peruse. It has popped up from time to time but the left probably considered that there was not too much point as Trump would not want the details public. Just as has transpired. Today I saw a clip (undated) of trump Jr almost hysterical about wanting the release of the list. I thought that odd as his pop is sure to feature large after seven flights on the Lolita Express. That blonde kid that Prince Andrew didn't have sex with but paid a couple of million quid anyway. Out if the goodness of his heart presumably. She was recruited by Ghislaine Maxell from a club called Mar A Lago. You may have heard of it?

[pritch]

Originally Twitter only permitted 120 characters in a tweet. We look back on that now with nostalgia. This rambling "Truth" from Trump was badly ratiod by MAGA, that's a first on his own social media empire.

[pritch]

There is an interesting story, at once unbelievable but then again perhaps not. The gold trophy awarded to Chelsea for their win at the World's was reportedly a replica. The original is in the Oval Office. Trump took a liking to it?

If that seems totally far fetched, a story describing how the FIFA president had to drag Trump away from the stage at the presentation might seem over the odds too, but it's true.

[sugilite:Me]

Originally Twitter only permitted 120 characters in a tweet. We look back on that now with nostalgia. This rambling "Truth" from Trump was badly ratiod by MAGA, that's a first on his own social media empire.

As per usual in the US, if you want the actual "news" you have to watch a few comedian shows. This explains rather nicely why trump is desperate for this to go away - he is neck deep in it.



Unfortunately, I do not think it will ultimately dent the "tribe before truth" maga world for very long, once the master of distraction starts finding his footing again.

[sugilite:Me]

Trump fires a prosecutor that was heavily involved in the epstein and giswall cases - not suspicious at all

[husaberg]

Trump in 2023

NEW YORK (AP) — As his supporters erupt over the Justice Department’s failure to release much-hyped records in Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking investigation, President Donald Trump’s strategy has been to downplay the issue.
The political crisis is especially challenging for Trump because it’s one of his own making. The president has spent years stoking dark theories and embracing QAnon-tinged propaganda that casts him as the only savior who can demolish the “deep state."

Now that he's running the federal government, the community he helped build is coming back to haunt him. It's demanding answers he either isn’t able to or doesn't want to provide.“I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is,” Trump told reporters Tuesday.

Last week, Trump quickly defended Attorney General Pam Bondi and chided a reporter for daring to ask about the documents.

The online reaction was swift, with followers calling the Republican president “out of touch” and demanding transparency.


“I don’t understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody.” Trump said.

Over the weekend, Trump used his Truth Social platform to attempt to call supporters off the Epstein trail amid reports of infighting between Bondi and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino over the issue. He suggested the turmoil was undermining his administration — “all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.”

Asked Tuesday whether Bondi had told him his name was in the Epstein files, Trump said no. He praised her handling of the case and said she should release “whatever she thinks is credible." But he also claimed there were credibility issues with the documents, suggesting without citing evidence they were “made up” by former FBI Director James Comey and former Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden, both Democrats. Bondi declined to discuss the Epstein files Tuesday during a press briefing about drug trafficking.

“The faulty assumption Trump and others make is they can peddle conspiracy theories without any blowback,” said Matt Dallek, a political scientist at George Washington University. “The Epstein case is a neat encapsulation that it is hard to put the genie back in the bottle.”

A problem that’s not going away
Last week’s two-page statement from the Justice Department and the FBI saying they had concluded Epstein didn't possess a client list roiled Trump’s supporters, who pointed to past statements from several administration officials that the list ought to be revealed.

Bondi had suggested in February such a document was sitting on her desk waiting for review.
Conservative influencers have since demanded to see all the files related to Epstein’s crimes, even as Trump has tried to put the issue to bed.

[pritch]

Trump fires a prosecutor that was heavily involved in the epstein and giswall cases - not suspicious at all

That seems counter intuitive. If she's on the staff they can control her to an extent. As a free agent she can talk.

Update: I don't realise it at the time but it is mentioned. The lawyer in question is Maureen Comey, daughter of James Comey, former head of the FBI. Trump has instructed the DoJ to investigate James Comey. Not in the expectation of finding anything but just to bugger him about and cause him to spend potentially large sums on lawyers.



Currently many DoJ lawyers are resigning. Nobody wants to defend Trump. Representing Trump in court usually proves expensive for his legal counsel. It definitely doesn't eanhance career prospects.

[neels]

[pritch]

Is Trump losing it? Not that he has much to lose.

Trump claimed his uncle, the MIT professor, taught the Unabomber. The Unabomber did not go to MIT and his uncle died years before the identity of the Unabomber was known. (Google Unabomber if needed.)

Trump is considering firing the Chair of the Federal Reserve. He says it was a terrible appointment. Trump appointed him.

Similarly he recently made derogatory remarks about Chris Wray, until recently head of the FBI. Wray too was appointed by Trump.

The latter two were performing at a far higher level than any of his current clown show cabinet.

[neels]

Is Trump losing it? Not that he has much to lose.

Trump claimed his uncle, the MIT professor, taught the Unabomber. The Unabomber did not go to MIT and his uncle died years before the identity of the Unabomber was known. (Google Unabomber if needed.)

Trump is considering firing the Chair of the Federal Reserve. He says it was a terrible appointment. Trump appointed him.

Similarly he recently made derogatory remarks about Chris Wray, until recently head of the FBI. Wray too was appointed by Trump.

The latter two were performing at a far higher level than any of his current clown show cabinet.

Perhaps not enough blood getting to his brain?

trump-diagnosed-heres-what-know-about-chronic-venous-insufficiency

[pritch]

Perhaps not enough blood getting to his brain?

trump-diagnosed-heres-what-know-about-chronic-venous-insufficiency

That made me smile. It occurs in pregnant women for the same reason. Too much weight in the abdomen putting pressure on the veins.

[sugilite:Me]

Try telling president cankles that, he seems to think raising tariffs on a sovereign country in order to get it to drop charges to his fellow criminal is the done thing.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/17/a...orld-lula-intl