Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Kawasaki Super Sherpa test ride

  1. #1
    Join Date
    14th January 2006 - 14:20
    Bike
    WR250R
    Location
    Rotorua
    Posts
    1,298

    Thumbs up Kawasaki Super Sherpa test ride

    For quite a while now, I've been thinking of one day getting a dual purpose bike. Unfortunately my short little legs limit my options a bit, but I have been doing my homework, and have come up with two likely suspects: The Kawasaki KL250 (Super Sherpa) and the Yamaha XT250 (previously known as the XT225 Serow). So, to begin my new bike finding mission, I booked myself in to test ride a KL at Underwood and Wilkins in Whakatane on Saturday morning.

    The ride report:

    It was a bit nippy first thing, but had warmed up by the time we got to Whakatane to pick up the bike. While I was getting myself sorted out with the bike, Clint discovered the teknic jacket he's been thinking of buying (on special too). I dragged him away from the jacket, and we headed off over the hill to Ohope. Slow speed manoeuvring on the bike was pretty shaky, a combination of the wider bars and the discovery of power (and engine braking) at low revs.

    The power at low revs meant that gear selection wasn't as important as on the KR. I could twist the throttle at whatever gear I was in, and invariably, something would happen. Not so on a little two stroke. Past Ohope we skirted around Ohiwa harbour, and turned back towards Taneatua. Clint wanted to have a quick zoom around, so I waited on the side of the road and enjoyed the sun. He thought it was "not a bad little bike" and we took a closer look at it and discussed some things. We took a brief detour onto some gravel, going a couple of k's up a side road, to see how it would handle. It was pretty good on the gravel, I felt like I could have gone faster than I was, but since it's not my bike, I wasn't pushing it. Riding through Taneatua I practised standing up, but found the bars were a little too low, so I had to stoop slightly.

    Back in Whakatane, Clint investigated all the ins and outs of the teknic jacket before deciding he would buy it. We managed to dismantle his old jacket and stow it in my panniers and in the little backpack that came with his new jacket, and we headed to the Whakatane wharf for lunch (a spot suggested by John, the very helpful salesguy at Underwood and Wilkins).
    After lounging in the Whakatane sun for a while, we headed along the coast to Tauranga and back to Rotorua.

    The bike report:

    I'd had a brief look at a KL at my local Kawasaki dealer in April last year. Since then I'd only really looked at pictures on the internet. So my first impression when we got to the shop was that it looked a bit smaller than I expected. And looked kind of daggy. I quite like the look of adventure bikes, but the sherpa had more of a farmbike look about it.

    I hopped on, and we headed off. The riding position is very different from the KR. The wide bars made the steering feel a bit twitchy at first, and the throttle was a LOT more responsive at low revs than the KR, so after a bit of a wobble and some learner-rider-style bunny hops, we were on the road to Ohope. Going up the Ohope hill, I was most impressed with the more even power delivery than the KR, I could twist the throttle, and there would be some more power, without changing gears, glancing at the tacho, and making sure I stayed in the powerband. This made the bike feel relaxed to ride, it's a lot quieter than my bike too, which probably helped with the relaxed feeling.
    There wasn't much vibration through the (daggy-looking chromed) bars, which meant that the mirrors worked like a dream - showing clearly what was going on behind me, rather than giving a blurry, vibrating reflection of my elbows.

    The bike felt good through the corners. Quite a different feeling to a sportsbike, but would be a lot of fun, once I became more comfortable on the bike.

    Cruising at 100, the wind wasn't too noticeable, but I imagine it would become more obvious on a longer ride.

    Clint's comment was that the gearing could be a little higher, but otherwise it was a really nice bike.

    My major niggle with the bike was the seat. The foam was too soft where the rider sits, but seemed to be a lot firmer in other places, so when I shifted my weight around, I'd find myself sitting on the transition between the two kinds of foam.

    Riding on gravel it was pretty nice. The bars weren't quite high enough for me to stand up comfortably, but they could be easily adjusted.

    Since it's such a different bike to the one I own, and I haven't ridden too many different bikes, it would take a while to become totally comfortable with it. I was expecting on road performance to be compromised, but, once I got used to it, it might even be nicer than the KR to ride on road.

    Positive:
    Nice even power delivery
    Plenty of off-road potential
    Quiet
    Relaxing to ride, cruises easily at 100
    No expensive fairings to damage
    Useful mirrors
    Less vibration through the bars
    Accurate speedo

    Negative:
    Daggy looking chromed bars and round indicators
    Uncomfortable seat
    Would need to fit a windscreen
    Need to raise bars so I can stand
    Perhaps geared too low
    Costs around $4000 more than value of current bike.

    In summary:
    It's a nice bike to ride and, with minor modifications, would work well for the sort of riding I'm doing now, with the potential to start venturing off the seal.
    I don't think I'd be disappointed if I bought it, I'm just not sure if I'm sufficiently enraptured to justify buying a brand new bike.

    The next step is to test ride a second hand XT and see how it compares to the KL.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    16th February 2005 - 11:00
    Bike
    .......?
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    811
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie View Post
    Would need to fit a windscreen
    A windscreen!! Just buy the bike, it is a good 'un and is very capable. See the August KR for our thoughts.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    14th July 2005 - 12:00
    Bike
    Triumph Thruxton / 81 Guzzi MKIII
    Location
    canterbury
    Posts
    1,382
    Good write up Rosie.
    It is a buggar being a hobbit, especially when it comes to off road bikes.
    I looked at the Sherpa a few years ago but ended up with a Serow. I'm a lazy braker & prefer 4strokes so I didn't test ride ay 2smokers to compare. The Serow was easy to ride on & off road. It is slow to pick up for overtaking on road but other than that it was a great all round dualpurpose bike. You get use to only having a number board for a wind break, besides you're standing while off road, & it helps keep the weight down.
    I have found a set of bars where the bend & width suits me, they have been moved to 3 bikes now along with my barkbusters.
    Have you thought about DR650's? We found it easy to lower (I'm a fraction over 5ft) a DR650SE to suit me, less ground clearance off road but I didn't find it a problem, which is a better option for bigger adventure/road trips.
    Hope you find what you're looking for it is awesome fun to be able to throw/slide a light bike around & mud plug.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    16th November 2006 - 23:46
    Bike
    Husky TE310, 2 Buckets and a ZXR250C
    Location
    Lower Hutt
    Posts
    2,452
    If you get a Dual purpose bike, take it out on the Dirt your be surpised how much fun it is once you get over the "Im going to drop it every second" thought.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    3rd March 2007 - 06:02
    Bike
    daytona 675, drz 400, cg 50
    Location
    bay of plenty
    Posts
    73
    another good dual purpose being a honda cr 230 x cheap too at 6995

  6. #6
    Join Date
    14th January 2006 - 14:20
    Bike
    WR250R
    Location
    Rotorua
    Posts
    1,298
    Quote Originally Posted by SDU View Post
    Have you thought about DR650's? We found it easy to lower (I'm a fraction over 5ft) a DR650SE to suit me, less ground clearance off road but I didn't find it a problem, which is a better option for bigger adventure/road trips.
    At this stage I've only been looking at bikes that wouldn't need lowering. If I can't find anything I like, or later on once I have a better idea of the kind of bike I want I might look at the lowering thing. For "my first adventure bike" it would be nice to not have to fiddle too much to get it ridable.
    There is a Serow at a dealer in Mt Maunganui, so hopefully I'll be able to take it for a ride on Saturday and see how it compares to the Sherpa.

    Quote Originally Posted by 675trippy View Post
    another good dual purpose being a honda cr 230 x cheap too at 6995
    What is the seat height on those? The Sherpa is 810mm, and I don't think I'd want to go much higher at this stage.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    16th February 2005 - 11:00
    Bike
    .......?
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    811
    Quote Originally Posted by 675trippy View Post
    another good dual purpose being a honda cr 230 x cheap too at 6995
    Not road legal unfortunately. It can be done but it's a lot of work.

    Have you looked at a DR200? Don't get too hung up on capacity, all the sub 250cc dual purpose bikes are excellent in their own right. Also have a look on Trademe at the SL230 for sale, I think there is two now.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    14th January 2006 - 14:20
    Bike
    WR250R
    Location
    Rotorua
    Posts
    1,298
    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Have you looked at a DR200? Don't get too hung up on capacity, all the sub 250cc dual purpose bikes are excellent in their own right. Also have a look on Trademe at the SL230 for sale, I think there is two now.
    The DR and SL are on my list, but I haven't been on either yet. There is a dealer in Matamata with both bikes, so I may need to go for a look one weekend.
    How would the DR compare to a 2-stroke 150 power-wise? I'm hoping to get something that has a wee bit more go than the KR.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    16th February 2005 - 11:00
    Bike
    .......?
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    811
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie View Post
    The DR and SL are on my list, but I haven't been on either yet. There is a dealer in Matamata with both bikes, so I may need to go for a look one weekend.
    How would the DR compare to a 2-stroke 150 power-wise? I'm hoping to get something that has a wee bit more go than the KR.
    The DR may only be 200cc but it gets along fine and is more than capable of getting you where you want to go at legal (or not) speeds. Fit knobbies and it'll cope with just about any adventure ride. We had one on test last year that my wife rode on the Great Barrier Adventure ride and she loved it. In the shed at home she has an SL. We fit either knobbies or something a little more road legal depending on the ride. I've ridden it at Woodhill trail rides and as long as you don't try and take the whoops at speed, it'll get you round.

    Suzuki DR200, Kawasaki Sherpa, Yamaha XT250 (there should be a road legal TTR230 coming soon), Honda SL230 (even if it's gonna be a few years old) are all fairly similar and will do exactly what you want them to do. Get hold of the August KR and read the peice on the Sherpa.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •