I'm a grave menace to society

[Sanx]

Yes, I admit it. I'm a killer. OK, I haven't killed anyone yet, but it's obviously only a matter of time before my thoroughly irresponsible and unacceptable behaviour results in the deaths of some poor tax-paying member of society.

Midnight on the north-western, traffic's light and the conditions dry. I was pulled over by a marked car with a laser gun and given a ticket for the heinous crime against humanity of doing 112kph. $80 and twenty demerits. I was the picture of politeness. I pulled over immediately on seeing their lights, I had my licence out ready and waiting, I was friendly. Not the slightest hint of a warning, just a 'please stay here sir, I'll just go and write you out a ticket.'

What a complete crock of shit. I'm going to challenge it anyway (as I was doing 105 according to my speedo) and the officer's managed to get my address wrong on the ticket. Pointless, but at least they'll have to do some work for their $80.

Still, it's taught me a good lesson. The next time this happens (provided I'm on my bike, which tonight I wasn't), I'm just going to gap it. According to the laser gun, I was 184 metres away when I was pinged. By my rough calculations, I could be doing well over 200kph by the time I passed the cop car and unless they can scramble a heli damn fast, they've got about as much chance of catching me as I have getting off this ticket.

Well done, NZ Police, here's another perfectly safe driver you've just fucked off.

[scumdog]

Harden up ya big woose!

Ferks sake, getting your knickers in a twist over a $80 ticket, sheesh!

Like it or lump it, the speed limit IS 100kph - and I doubt your speedo is accurate enough to back up you were only doing 105kph.

BTW, If you were riding along thinking you were 'only' doing an indicated 110kph imagine what you would really be doing??

[Panther]

Runners!!
One time some coon did one with a chainsaw in his left arm.

[Mekk]

Seems to me like you're angry with the wrong group. The politicians set the rules, the cops only enforce them. Go and bomb parliament, that'd be way cooler.

[sAsLEX]

Seems to me like you're angry with the wrong group. The politicians set the rules, the cops only enforce them. Go and bomb parliament, that'd be way cooler.

Ah but who decides what to target?

Burglary? Assault? Youth Gangs? Drugs?



or the nice and easy one, Speed on the motorway?

[Mekk]

Ah but who decides what to target?

Burglary? Assault? Youth Gangs? Drugs?

or the nice and easy one, Speed on the motorway?

I'm not a cop but I think there'd be some sort of system in place with regards to what gets tackled and by whom. I can't imagine sitting on the side of the road monitoring vehicles would be very much fun at all, certainly not something you'd do by choice.

I doubt very much people are getting tickets because it's easier to do that than bust a youth gang.

[sAsLEX]

I doubt very much people are getting tickets because it's easier to do that than bust a youth gang.

It makes $$ solving general crime does not.

It is an easy statistic to help in the combating of the road toll...

[boomer]

I'm not a cop but I think there'd be some sort of system in place with regards to what gets tackled and by whom. I can't imagine sitting on the side of the road monitoring vehicles would be very much fun at all, certainly not something you'd do by choice.

I doubt very much people are getting tickets because it's easier to do that than bust a youth gang.

lets face it... the coppers aren't very bright. everything else goes in the 'uhhh too hard basket'. this way the simpson like brain of the rozza thinks hes starsky or hutch

[Grub]

It makes $$ solving general crime does not.

And the $$ pay the Policemen and the Policemen catch bad guys (like the ones that stole Frosty's kids bikes!)

I wish people would just get off the "it's only revenue gathering" bandwagon.
- Speed is the major factor in the road toll
- Therefore they police speed

Losers blame someone else for their mistakes, never themselves.

[sAsLEX]

And the $$ pay the Policemen and the Policemen catch bad guys (like the ones that stole Frosty's kids bikes!)

I wish people would just get off the "it's only revenue gathering" bandwagon.
- Speed is the major factor in the road toll
- Therefore they police speed

Losers blame someone else for their mistakes, never themselves.

Does the money return to the police? Or to a Govt slush fund?


Where does most of your petrol tax go? Maybe if they spent a larger chunk of that on roads less would die...

[Albino]

I wish people would just get off the "it's only revenue gathering" bandwagon.
- Speed is the major factor in the road toll
- Therefore they police speed

I really do disagree. Poor driving skill is the number one factor in the road toll.

Speed is the easiest to prove and enforce.

[kiwifruit]

Runners!!
One time some coon did one with a chainsaw in his left arm.

NAUGHTY NAUGHTY!
those cop cars are fast too, when i was young and stupid(er) i was chasing a rx3 on my gsxr250 (whoa!), i was flat out laying on the tank pulling an indicated 190km/h when a mufti commodore pulled up beside me, passenger waved finger then pulled away hard after the rx3 (which was also giving me the learn). they must have gone at least 200, now i dunno about you but theres no way i'll go 200 or more on public roads just to evade mr plod no


Sanx, you're fookin menace, i hope you have learnt your lesson, let me know if you want a speed limiter made up for your bike..

[Grub]

I really do disagree.

There is of course an element of truth in that but your disagreement would fly in the face of all the accident research from here and the rest of the world if it were wholly true.

- Driving performance is generally ok at legal speeds buit any higher, people loose it.
- Someone with marginal skills drinks and then speeds = big mess

So sure there's other factors but the deaths come from the speed of impacts, not from people bumping into each other and powerpoles at 50kph

[sAsLEX]

There is of course an element of truth in that but your disagreement would fly in the face of all the accident research from here and the rest of the world if it were wholly true.

- Driving performance is generally ok at legal speeds buit any higher, people loose it.
- Someone with marginal skills drinks and then speeds = big mess

Explain why then:

1. Raising the speed limit in the states resulted in a drop in accidents
2. Why there are few fatalities on the Autobahn
3. Why here in the UK 100MPH on the motorway is the norm


Who chose 100kmh? A nice round number but was there any study done to find out if this was the safest speed? I mean the newer vehicles in the fleet can do that easily, your old 1970s car is really struggling with its drum brakes and little wheel but thats when they set the limit?!

[MSTRS:Me]

There is of course an element of truth in that but your disagreement would fly in the face of all the accident research from here and the rest of the world if it were wholly true.

- Driving performance is generally ok at legal speeds buit any higher, people loose it.
- Someone with marginal skills drinks and then speeds = big mess

So sure there's other factors but the deaths come from the speed of impacts, not from people bumping into each other and powerpoles at 50kph

You've been brainwashed by the spurious stats. Any speed is 'speeding' if the conditions are inappropriate for that speed. But the stats just say 'speed was a major factor'. Same as alcohol is a 'factor' if it was present - even if the driver had not had any. Stupidity is probably THE major factor, but that is not a category for the statisticians.