I'm a grave menace to society

**scumdog** · 24th July 2007, 14:18

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

So at anyone time you are still stupid but to varying degrees then...

And then there's the times he's drunk as well - to varying degrees.

**avgas** · 24th July 2007, 14:44

Originally Posted by Mekk

Seems to me like you're angry with the wrong group. The politicians set the rules, the cops only enforce them. Go and bomb parliament, that'd be way cooler.

I will pay $100 out of my own pocket for this to happen, anyone else....its worth it

**avgas** · 24th July 2007, 14:48

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Geeze, when I was in Kenya the drivers were better and you should see there roads....or lack of.

Have to keep your window closed less someone tries to threaten you with human crap.
Ah Kenya, not quite as corrupt as NZ.

**Scouse** · 24th July 2007, 15:10

Originally Posted by Sanx

Yes, I admit it. I'm a killer. OK, I haven't killed anyone yet, but it's obviously only a matter of time before my thoroughly irresponsible and unacceptable behaviour results in the deaths of some poor tax-paying member of society.

Midnight on the north-western, traffic's light and the conditions dry. I was pulled over by a marked car with a laser gun and given a ticket for the heinous crime against humanity of doing 112kph. $80 and twenty demerits. I was the picture of politeness. I pulled over immediately on seeing their lights, I had my licence out ready and waiting, I was friendly. Not the slightest hint of a warning, just a 'please stay here sir, I'll just go and write you out a ticket.'

What a complete crock of shit. I'm going to challenge it anyway (as I was doing 105 according to my speedo) and the officer's managed to get my address wrong on the ticket. Pointless, but at least they'll have to do some work for their $80.

Still, it's taught me a good lesson. The next time this happens (provided I'm on my bike, which tonight I wasn't), I'm just going to gap it. According to the laser gun, I was 184 metres away when I was pinged. By my rough calculations, I could be doing well over 200kph by the time I passed the cop car and unless they can scramble a heli damn fast, they've got about as much chance of catching me as I have getting off this ticket.

Well done, NZ Police, here's another perfectly safe driver you've just fucked off.

Your a Nob harden up and take your medicine if you dont like the rules crawl back into the hole that you oozed out of

**Grahameeboy** · 24th July 2007, 15:16

Originally Posted by avgas

Have to keep your window closed less someone tries to threaten you with human crap.
Ah Kenya, not quite as corrupt as NZ.

Actually NZ is the 2nd least corrupt nation in the world.

We managed to avoid problems in Kenya.....always kept window down....it was the whites in fancy cars that were targets.

**Grub** · 24th July 2007, 15:54

Originally Posted by Sanx

Should I have been travelling along at an indicated 110, it still would have been absolutely safe.

Dude the speed limit is 100, not 110!

Originally Posted by Sanx

Cops have powers of discretion, and the cops choose to, for instance, place speed traps on motorways late at night and ticket people fractionally over the limit.

Dude the speed limit is 100, not 110!

**Sanx** · 24th July 2007, 15:55

Originally Posted by zrxer

Your a Nob harden up and take your medicine if you dont like the rules crawl back into to hole that you came from

Someone forgot to take their happy juice this morning...

**Sanx** · 24th July 2007, 15:57

Originally Posted by Grub

Dude the speed limit is 100, not 110!

Speed limit does not define safe. Ever. It's the people that think that "I am under the speed limit, ergo, I'm driving safely" that are the real worries.

Originally Posted by Grub

Dude the speed limit is 100, not 110!

Well, 10/100 is a fraction, ain't it?

**kiwifruit** · 24th July 2007, 15:59

Originally Posted by jrandom

That 62mph limiter working out well for you then?

works a treat
bikes should come out with the from the factory

**Ewan Oozarmy** · 24th July 2007, 16:29

I'm with Sanx on this one. I'm from the UK and have ridden/driven in many countries with higher speed limits and far fewer road deaths per capita. Quite frankly the standard from driving in this country (which I otherwise love) is appalling.

Yes, I agree that speeding near schools, residential areas, etc, is a no no but on a large non-residential road, motorway, etc, late at night there should be some discretian shown.

I've been in NZ 8 months and already picked up a speeding ticket (58 in a 50 for f*cks sake late at night, empty non-resedential road - in my language that equates to 5mph over the limit!!) whereas never had one in over 20 years in the UK depsite being stopped on a number of occasions and merely recieving a "slapped wrist" due to police discretion.

I don't know about the laws here but in the UK you can ask to see that the laser/radar was callibrated recently (I think they need to be at least one a month or your ticket is revoked).

I'm sure the cops are just following orders but I'm also sure the whole "you were speeding - you get a ticket" thing is a revenue generator.

Yes, the speed limit is 50 or 100, but there must be room for police discretion.

**MSTRS:Me** · 24th July 2007, 16:35

Originally Posted by Ewan Oozarmy

.... but there must be room for police discretion.

There is. After their shift quota is filled.
Except Scummy, cos he's a good c**t. Apparently.

**Sanx** · 24th July 2007, 16:44

Originally Posted by Ewan Oozarmy

I don't know about the laws here but in the UK you can ask to see that the laser/radar was callibrated recently (I think they need to be at least one a month or your ticket is revoked).

The device needs to be calibrated once per year. You can ask to see the calibration certificate. You can also demand to see the certificate stating the officer has been trained in the equipment's use. The device also needs to be checked at the start of each shift, usually by doing a drive through against a car with a calibrated speedo; which also needs to be checked at the start of each shift, by travelling a measured mile and timing the trip against a stopwatch. Which needs to be calibrated once per year.

If any one of those actions are not performed, or the Police cannot prove to the magistrate's satisfaction that they have not been performed, then goodbye ticket.

The exception to these rules is VASCAR, but this also needs to be calibrated / checked at the start of each shift though (as I never got caught by VASCAR) I'm not sure of the exact process.

Although relatively difficult to find out, the rules and processes the cops must follow are strictly laid out. A reasonably large proportion of the tickets stick simply because the driver does not know the Police rules and magistrates have a long history in completely ignoring them unles specifically brought to their attention.

In NZ though, it's hard to find out what the exact rules are; i suspect because there are precious few of them and therefore precious few opportunities for us drivers to exercise a loophole in the law to get off a ticket.