Motorway Patrol (24 July)

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:24

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

I'm sorry ... You what ?? .. I just pissed myself laughing ... respect your rights ... are you living on the same planet as the rest of us ??

Do you know your rights? and yes from what i can see im on earth and as a human your intitled to your rights your intitled to know your rights and police officers (supprisingly human) should respect those rights. if they dont there are some bad punnishments for them. or you get off all your charges and a nice apology letter depending on the situation

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:25

Originally Posted by Tom

well you can if you want to be.. it may pay to be a smart ass the cop may know your right and he wont be fucked as it will be too much of a hassle or impossible to try and get you for something..

Dude ... in my experience ... if they want you ... they will find something .. it's best to just fly under the radar and chill

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:28

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

Dude ... in my experience ... if they want you ... they will find something .. it's best to just fly under the radar and chill

yeah by all means fly under the radar dont do anything illegal.. but they are just as human as us and they shouldt be any higher then us. they are granted powers of arrest etc but if you have done nothing wrong they shouldnt be allowed to take advantage of you. therefore the makeing of the bill of rights

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:30

Originally Posted by Tom

yeah by all means fly under the radar dont do anything illegal.. but they are just as human as us and they shouldt be any higher then us. they are granted powers of arrest etc but if you have done nothing wrong they shouldnt be allowed to take advantage of you. therefore the makeing of the bill of rights

I think you've got me wrong mate ... i never said "dont do anything illegal" i said fly under the radar.

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:30

for example if you walking down the road in a public place and a police officer comes up to you and wants to question you, you are legaly obliged not to answer any of his questions nor give any of your details as he has the same rights as you at that point and he cant use any of his powers. but if your observed breaching the peace and then arrested you are the obliged to give your name, address and dob thats all

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:32

Originally Posted by Tom

for example if you walking down the road in a public place and a police officer comes up to you and wants to question you, you are legaly obliged not to answer any of his questions nor give any of your details. but if your observed breaching the peace and then arrested you are the obliged to give your name, address and dob thats all

Actually ... that's wrong ... you are legally required to provide your name and address.

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:37

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

Actually ... that's wrong ... you are legally required to provide your name and address.

i have a civil rights book in front of me now it states

In a summary of your rights and entitlements when dealing with the police

What personal details should you give the police?
Althought you do not have to give any details to the police in many situations, these days it is advisable to give your name, adress and dob

this doesnt mean you have to but it is advisable

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:41

Cool ... does it quote a passage of law ??

Oh ... and does it tell you what the possible outcomes of that course of action are??

There's only one that i can see .. arrest... LOL

So let me get this right ... your book is saying that i can say nothing to the police when asked ?? is that right ??

so, when i'm stopped for a random breath test and i'm asked to state my name and address into the machine, i can refuse right??

Originally Posted by Tom

i have a civil rights book in front of me now it states

In a summary of your rights and entitlements when dealing with the police

What personal details should you give the police?
Althought you do not have to give any details to the police in many situations, these days it is advisable to give your name, adress and dob

this doesnt mean you have to but it is advisable

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:44

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

Cool ... does it quote a passage of law ??

Oh ... and does it tell you what the possible outcomes of that course of action are??

There's only one that i can see .. arrest... LOL

So let me get this right ... your book is saying that i can say nothing to the police when asked ?? is that right ??

so, when i'm stopped for a random breath test and i'm asked to state my name and address into the machine, i can refuse right??

they have to state what they are arresting you for if they choose to arrest you for not giving your details it is arbitary arrest as those are your rights.

yes that is correct inform them of your civil right and then exercise your right of travel

no that is not right as your are driveing a motorvehicle you are obliged to show without delay your licence and or give your name, address and dob

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:46

Originally Posted by Tom

they have to state what they are arresting you for if they choose to arrest you for not giving your details it is arbitary arrest as those are your rights.

yes that is correct inform them of your civil right and then exercise your right of travel

no that is not right as your are driveing a motorvehicle you are obliged to show without delay your licence and or give your name, address and dob

Perhaps you should have a look at sections 113, 114 and 118 of the Land Transport Act 1998

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:48

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

Cool ... does it quote a passage of law ??

no it doesnt its an interpretation of the bill of rights not the bill of rights law book its self (i wld fall to sleep reading that one) but im positive it will have that in there

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:50

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

Perhaps you should have a look at sections 113, 114 and 118 of the Land Transport Act 1998

i am talking about walking down a foot path not driveing a motorvehicle when your driving a motorvehicle you have to give your details

**Max Preload** · 24th July 2007, 23:51

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

So, when i'm stopped for a random breath test and i'm asked to state my name and address into the machine, i can refuse right??

No - there are exceptions. Operating a motor vehicle, carrying firearms and being suspected of a crime (what's the bet they'll think of something...). In other situations you are not obliged to tell them jack shit and if you are arrested for that it is arbitrary and they could get in a lot of trouble for breaching your rights.

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:51

Originally Posted by Tom

i am talking about walking down a foot path not driveing a motorvehicle when your driving a motorvehicle you have to give your details

Ahhh ... but that's not what we were debating ... no fair .. you can't change the rules half way through

**moT** · 24th July 2007, 23:56

Originally Posted by WarlockNZ

Ahhh ... but that's not what we were debating ... no fair .. you can't change the rules half way through

i said that if you were walking in a public place they cldnt ask shit from you earlier read up top

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