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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    >> You would have to be mad not to buy from the USA at the moment<<

    Or you happen to believe in supporting local business.
    i do support local businesses..

    Chicago. Cincinnati.. Miami..

    all local for me


    i picked up a Weisco 1314 kit and stroker crank for about 40% what it woulda cost in NZ... lookin at bringing in a Simpson helmet later this year..
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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    I dunno about other brands, but almost invariably Honda parts are a case of, "Sorry - they're not in stock. They'll be 3 or 4 weeks, ex-Japan; you'll have to pay up front before we can order them." The worst example were cush rubbers for my rear hub - they were "at least 3 months, indent, as there's not even any in Japan. When there are enough orders, they'll make some." After nearly 6 months of patiently waiting, I discovered they hadn't even ordered them, despite my deposit !
    So, I cancelled the order, and got them from Service Honda or AZ Motosports, less than a third of the price, ex-stock, less than a week.

    I won't buy any Honda parts locally now, unless they're heavy items like chains. If BlueWing Honda and their dealers can't be bothered stocking common items like brake caliper seals, why should I give them my custom? Fukkem.
    Likewise. I've just waited four weeks for them to get the replacement fairing components for my Blade in. Is it not unreasonable to keep some of this in stock? Replacement fairings are hardly an unusual item, I would have thought (judging from the number of "whatshisface bins" threads on here).

    In future, I'll jjust order anything I want online and have it delivered. Supporting local business is one thing. Being asked to bend over and supply your own lube is something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffm View Post
    BMW parts must be some of the worst. Suzuki seem to charge the same around the world, at least for RG gearbox parts...
    BMW on the other hand seem to like ripping the NZ customer. I can land parts from Siebenrock in Germany for 2/3 the cost and in less than 3 weeks. BMW NZ never has stock, order from Germany and it takes 3 weeks.
    Geoff
    BMW NZ has a nice big shiny building in Dorkland though.
    I had to giggle when I found this too.
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    What? BMW have stuff thats made in China?!!
    They have their biggest car assembly plant in China too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    What? BMW have stuff thats made in China?!!
    They have their biggest car assembly plant in China too.
    Yeah well that figures. Cheap labour = more profit from their over-priced products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    Postage is also another thing ,,,I bought a graphics kit ,,50 us dollars ,,,postage ..2kg something like that ...50 us OUCH
    Yeah the last thing I bought was like that - cost me $0.00, but postage (via the slowest of slow boats from Canadia) was $23.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    What? BMW have stuff thats made in China?!!
    Where have YOU been?!?
    Everything is made in China now.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    Yeah well that figures. Cheap labour = more profit from their over-priced products.
    The Chinese market absorbs all the cars the plant can make so its not about export profits.
    Purchasing a BMW is a choice, not a necessity, so if theyre overpriced then nobody is forced to buy one.
    Also, isint reducing business overheads by using the most cost effective labour or raw product the only way to stay competitive in this day & age.
    Not everybody gets handed their money on a plate with no understanding of how it came to be there.
    P.S, I love your current sig line Goblin, Sooo true.

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    Thats what the internet has done for us- shown us that others are getitng the same product at much much less than we are.(even when you put in shipping costs. overheads, blah, etc)
    We used to live in blissful ignorance that we were being shafted royally. Now, we know exactly how many extra,unnecessary, inches the local businesses are jamming up us. Luckily the net, and a credit card, enable us to say "take your 500% profit and jam it up your arse"
    I've no problem with them making a profit, thats why they are in business after all. Raping people because you can/they have no other choice is what gets all this ill will floating around. And havent we all got a story of someone being criminally overcharged for something and then finding out a) could have got it cheaper online b) the importers got it for the online price or less, then charged like wounded bulls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    The Chinese market absorbs all the cars the plant can make so its not about export profits.
    Purchasing a BMW is a choice, not a necessity, so if theyre overpriced then nobody is forced to buy one.
    Also, isint reducing business overheads by using the most cost effective labour or raw product the only way to stay competitive in this day & age.
    Not everybody gets handed their money on a plate with no understanding of how it came to be there.
    That's a bit of a contradiction to what you were saying in another thread. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...0&postcount=18
    In my humble opinion, it all boils down to greed. Storm has got it. The WWW has opened up our eyes to just how much we have been ripped off. There's a huge difference between kneeling down and bending over!

    In regards to bmw NZ's generosity to giving me 3k(RRP) worth of riding apparel, if I knew then what I know now I would have spent the lot at Ray Holmes shop in the Mt. and got myself and all of my kids decked out with helmets, boots, gloves, pants and jackets and still have some left over for a tankbag.
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    I think i may be missing something, but im unsure how that is a contradiction, Reducing overheads & turning out crap are two different things, with two different outcomes. However, you are entitled to your opinion, which i wont disagree with.
    Regarding importing stuff, it often comes down in my situation to supply on the day.
    Example, I replace a lot of BMW radiators, approx two per week because they are crap.
    My supplier in Auckland, Not BMW NZ, has vast stocks & i can have the vehicle running again within 24 hours, & because i dont know which version i will need next, Me & my clients find his service very convienent.
    The approx cost of a radiator is around $340 $360NZ +GST, which is considerably cheaper than BMW, (Rip off bastards)
    I could however currently get them from the USA for aprox $150US plus freight & GST, but there would be an unacceptable delay for a relatively small saving, bearing in mind the cost of a loan or rental car while the clients car is down, plus the inconvienence to both myself & my client to have a dead car lying around.
    If me & every other person who used this company imported their own unit via the web, soon the company wouldnt exist & this would be hugely disadvantageous to the motoring public.
    Frankly, i am very happy to buy locally & be done with all the drama of importing minor components & leave it to a specialist in that area.
    I imported a Polini barrell kit for my RS125 & never again, it took 17 weeks from the date i paid for it & you may as well throw any warranty the parts have, in the bin to start with.
    Hey Gob, With all due respect mate, you really need to move on from the whole BMW bike gear gift thingy, its eating you alive & that cant be improving your quality of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Not everybody gets handed their money on a plate with no understanding of how it came to be there.
    P.S, I love your current sig line Goblin, Sooo true.
    Right you are Bob! All the years I have worked I have payed my P.A.Y.E. and I still pay tax on all my groceries, fuel, car & bike rego, booze and tobacco just like everybody else does. Hey I even pay tax on my benefit! If I choose to stay home to look after my kids then dont hold that against me. My kids are far better off this way than me being a slave to a wage and paying someone else to do the job I am supposed to be doing as their mum.

    You went on about China exploiting the world of resorces and their product ending up in landfil yet you endorse their product as long as you personally can profit from it. Good onya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    Right you are Bob! All the years I have worked I have payed my P.A.Y.E. and I still pay tax on all my groceries, fuel, car & bike rego, booze and tobacco just like everybody else does. Hey I even pay tax on my benefit! If I choose to stay home to look after my kids then dont hold that against me. My kids are far better off this way than me being a slave to a wage and paying someone else to do the job I am supposed to be doing as their mum.

    You went on about China exploiting the world of resorces and their product ending up in landfil yet you endorse their product as long as you personally can profit from it. Good onya!
    Going off topic, but im not sure how im personally profiting from Chinese made BMW who are quality controlled from Germany.
    And the big bastard tax bill you failed to mention, Provisional tax, Thats the one that screws small business that didnt plan for it.
    As per your sig line, My tax is your benifit.

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    Hi

    I have worked at a couple of bike shops here in Hams, we were lucky to get 100% mark up on low price items.
    It's fair to say with any product you can get bad service or feel like your being "raped"
    I have often been well looked after by the local shops.

    But I get plenty of stuff from the US like many do.
    This country has a small M/cycle fleet and often you have to import what you want as shops often hate one offs.

    I have brought from and would use these guys again:

    https://www.morepoweracing.com/index.htm took 10 days
    http://www.factorypro.com took 1 week
    http://www.spatechnique.com/index.asp took 3 days

    The S.P.A gauges are fantastic, I had one on my last bike and plan to get 2 for my new bike. Very expensive though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Going off topic, but im not sure how im personally profiting from Chinese made BMW who are quality controlled from Germany.
    And the big bastard tax bill you failed to mention, Provisional tax, Thats the one that screws small business that didnt plan for it.
    As per your sig line, My tax is your benifit.
    Yeah and my own tax is my benefit too.
    If you or any other small business owner never planned for provisional tax then you have no one to blame but yourself...or your accountant.

    You do personally profit from Chinese made BMW components/product as you pay for the product yourself then pass on the cost and profit to the consumer. Do you know that every component you purchase from anywhere is NOT made in China? You personally are contributing to the exploitation of global resorces by buying and re-selling Chinese made stuff....all in the name of "reducing overheads".
    What about the poor old Chinese people who work in these sweatshops to make BMW executives richer?

    BTW my interpretation of my sig line is that taxes are levied for the benefit of the greedy pollies and bureaucrats who are paid with said taxes.
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