Motorway Patrol (24 July)

[WarlockNZ]

of course they would say that.. did you happen to ask if they were to ask you for details when you were walking in a public area? or did they assume you were driveing?

i specified walking and not driving, I'm sure if we ask nicely, one of the cops on here will give us the relevant law.

go go gadget police ... LOL

[Patrick]

.. but he was issued a ticket for impeding the flow, what i would like to know is the speed on the ticket.

There was no "speed", there was no L plate. He was impeding the flow of traffic, full stop, end of story. He had other roads available and was a danger to himself. he was roadkill waiting to happen.

pays not to be a smart ass then huh ??? ... LOL

The best advice seen for some time... Top man...

well you can if you want to be.. it may pay to be a smart ass the cop may know your right and he wont be fucked as it will be too much of a hassle or impossible to try and get you for something..

Yep, being a smart arse ALWAYS gets you off tickets, arrest, whatever... TUI, TUI, TUI...

so, when i'm stopped for a random breath test and i'm asked to state my name and address into the machine, i can refuse right??

Yes, you can. You will then be promptly asked to undergo a screening test, which you can also refuse, but that will result in you being required to accompany. THAT, you can not refuse or you will be arrested. Probably much easier to talk into the machine, especially as you wouldn't be drunk while driving anyway???

for example if you walking down the road in a public place and a police officer comes up to you and wants to question you, you are legaly obliged not to answer any of his questions nor give any of your details as he has the same rights as you at that point and he cant use any of his powers. but if your observed breaching the peace and then arrested you are the obliged to give your name, address and dob thats all

You're on a road, you can be asked for your details... if refused you can be locked up. We can also ask you how your day has been, what did you think of the rugby? The weather? Does my arse look fat in this uniform?

Ahhh ... but that's not what we were debating ... no fair .. you can't change the rules half way through

i said that if you were walking in a public place they cldnt ask shit from you earlier read up top

No, see above.. you changed the rules...

you can infact if you get pulled over randomly and fail the first breath test (cant be used as evidence in court) they will then ask you to do the second breath test the bag (refuse to do that one and demand a blood test) they cant do you for anything as you are requesting a blood test. they then have to take you to the station (where you are sobering up the whole time if you are drunk which you shouldnt be) get a qualified person to do it refuse to give one without a quallied person but then demand to talk to a lawyer (if you can get hold of one that time of night) refuse to give a blood test til you get a lawyer (which is provided for free) (convince him to come down to the station) refuse to give a blood test until you have consulted the lawyer once he has arrived and you have consulted him then give the blood test these are your rights

FARKEN BUSH LAWYERS. If you follow ANY of this advice, you, your liberty and your licence are screwed. The only piece that is right is only a qualified person can take blood... a doctor or a nurse... We do not call anything else to come in. Yep, you can talk to a lawyer but that is all, and only for a reasonable time. 10 to 15 minutes has been ruled as being "overly generous" for a routine drink drive matter already. The rest Tom, is utter BULL...SHIT!!!! and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Me vs Smartasses win score so far;
Me: 128
Smart-asses: O

I beat that score!!!! Must have more years under my belt... Smart arses score is the same tho...

The scooter guy was a hinderence to traffic - tho i dont think he should have been fined, the outcome required was to get him off the road and a fine wasnt needed to do that. Stay professional - outline the problem, reslove it and carry on doing your duties.

They tried this, told him to speed up... he ignored that. Stopped him again and told him if he can't speed up, get off the next offramp. He ignored that too, so they stopeed him again and ticketed him. Three strikes, he was out.

Anyone see last weeks where father and son were testing there new WRX on the roads - cop clocked him at 160km/h on the in car radar display, the father got fined $750 + court costs and had his license suspended for 28days.

Surely he could have been done under some boy racer policys and had the car taken off him, license suspended for 6 months and huge fine? like most people on those programs seem to get.

Could have been done for that, but was done for the speed only and the courts did not disqualify any further. He no doubt made submissions and had special reasons for not being disqualified further...

[Max Preload]

They tried this, told him to speed up... he ignored that. Stopped him again and told him if he can't speed up, get off the next offramp. He ignored that too, so they stopeed him again and ticketed him. Three strikes, he was out.

The cop stopped him, ticketed him FIRST, stopped him again because he was only doing 70km/h, made him ride on the shoulder at 25km/h, stopped him a third time when he missed the off-ramp. Total overkill particularly blaming him for the traffic. Anyone who has ever been on the Southern Motorway at Ramarama on the eve of a long weekend knows that even 50km/h is quite a high speed for that section of road, under those conditions and circumstances.

[Patrick]

The cop stopped him, ticketed him FIRST, stopped him again because he was only doing 70km/h, made him ride on the shoulder at 25km/h, stopped him a third time when he missed the off-ramp. Total overkill particularly blaming him for the traffic. Anyone who has ever been on the Southern Motorway at Ramarama on the eve of a long weekend knows that even 50km/h is quite a high speed for that section of road, under those conditions and circumstances.

Missed that bit (the ticket)... The rest of the traffic was blasting past at much more than what he was doing tho, but he was holding up his lane something shocking. Thought riding the shoulder amongst the marbles was dodgy as, especially as the guy didn't seem to know what he was doing on a bike (when he pulled out the first time and almost became roadkill... and the following 59 point turn at the end...)

[Edbear]

Does my arse look fat in this uniform?..

I guess depending on why one was pulled up may determine how one answered that question...?

[scumdog]

. Anyone who has ever been on the Southern Motorway at Ramarama on the eve of a long weekend knows that even 50km/h is quite a high speed for that section of road, under those conditions and circumstances.

Then why, if the scooter rider was doing 'about' 50 was the rest of the traffic blasting past him so fast??


And tootled to show their displeasure (I guess that's why they tootled)

[moT]

youre on a road, you can be asked for your details... if refused you can be locked up. We can also ask you how your day has been, what did you think of the rugby? The weather? Does my arse look fat in this uniform?

FARKEN BUSH LAWYERS. If you follow ANY of this advice, you, your liberty and your licence are screwed. The only piece that is right is only a qualified person can take blood... a doctor or a nurse... We do not call anything else to come in. Yep, you can talk to a lawyer but that is all, and only for a reasonable time. 10 to 15 minutes has been ruled as being "overly generous" for a routine drink drive matter already. The rest Tom, is utter BULL...SHIT!!!! and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

yeah well i meant foot path if you are on the road its a different story.. but you have the right to refuse the evidential breath tests and demand a blood test but yes you are right the police have to give a reasonable ammount of time to contact a lawyer but can refuse you to see the lawyer in pearson as evidence will be pissed away in the process.... as for your licence getting screwed, it will get screwed anyway if you make your job easy or not

[scumdog]

yeah well i meant foot path if you are on the road its a different story.. but you have the right to refuse the evidential breath tests and demand a blood test but yes you are right the police have to give a reasonable ammount of time to contact a lawyer but can refuse you to see the lawyer in pearson as evidence will be pissed away in the process.... as for your licence getting screwed, it will get screwed anyway if you make your job easy or not

If your advice is as good as your grammar we're all screwed.....

[moT]

If your advice is as good as your grammar we're all screwed.....

thanks but that advice is all out of the book

[Virago]

thanks but that advice is all out of the book

Which book?

[moT]

Which book?

the new zealand civil rights hand book which is a interperetation of the bill of rights it is a guide to many frequently asked questions that be answered in a clear, authorotive manner.

[scumdog]

Obviously NOT from a grammar book.

Or the book-of-real-life.

[Virago]

the new zealand civil rights hand book which is a interperetation of the bill of rights it is a guide to many frequently asked questions that be answered in a clear, authorotive manner.

Cool, if it's authorotive, it must be right...

[moT]

Obviously NOT from a grammar book.

Or the book-of-real-life.

Do you just feel like haveing a go at someone? because to be honest i dont give a fuck if you dont like my grammer so just go waste someone elses time

[moT]

Cool, if it's authorotive, it must be right...

thats what it sais on the back so it must be true.. it does have very reliable refrences and i doubt they will be telling me bs. but it was published in 2001 so laws may of changed. if you are really concerned check it out your self with a more up to date book i would be interested to know if there are any changes