Workplace urine test

**Deano** · 2nd August 2007, 08:22

The thing is......the clever dole bludgers progress to the sickness benefit, and in some cases....they even start taking heroine and submit a urine sample to prove to the doctor that they are a useless druggie that is unemployable.

I have seen someone do this. He went to the doctor pinged off his face, acted dumb, said he had low self esteem, scratched his face a bit and was restless, vacant look on his face (wasn't a difficult act for him anyway).

Bingo - straight off the dole and onto a sickness benefit. He still sits at home all day, wasted.

The bludgers learn off their mates how to work the system. And the system works for them........pisses me off paying to support these wasters.

**Steam** · 2nd August 2007, 08:24

Originally Posted by Big Dave

... all mine [taxes] goes towards the roads. I sent a note with my last return.

What!! You can nominate where your taxes go?? Is that in the USA? What a brilliant idea.

**Mystery** · 2nd August 2007, 09:00

This is a great idea! It could give the term "P Dealer" a whole new meaning

**u4ea** · 2nd August 2007, 09:03

Even though I havnt worked for a while I am aware of drug testing.If they could determine how long since one had a puff as THC stays in the system 28 days then it would be better.I liken it to a glass of red in the evening or a whole bottle on the weekend..not in work time.
I wonder if beneficiaries were drug tested and refused welfare if proven positive would make the crime rate go up so they will get their fix by other means??
I am a little off topic now but....
If beneficiaries were tested it may stop our wee cherubs getting hurt as well??
I always rekon its a mentality thing..do we smoke ciggies or weed around our babies?do we leave empty bottles and cans and dirty ashtrays laying around?do we encourage our kids to be the best they can or be gangbangers?do we want our kids to be productive in society and give them the tools?..Adults who dont want to work wont as Deano has said but its the flowon effects to the next generation which worries me.

**Big Dave** · 2nd August 2007, 09:18

Originally Posted by jrandom

Pfft.

Getting stoned would have done the CEO at my previous employer a power of good.

I fully support drug testing of all senior executives in any company I work for or hold shares in, primarily to ensure that they're regularly doing something to ameliorate their uptight yuppieness.

I've noticed in some publishing houses the senior executives would be more likely to test the drugs than be drug tested.

**R1madness** · 2nd August 2007, 10:08

As an employer i support drug testing, but as a human being i support the freedom of choice. I dont care if my employee has a drink in the weekend or a puff, as long as they do not turn up to work wasted. After all pot was only banned in the face of pressure form alcohol and tabacco industries in the late 1920s in USA. They dont like compitition

**ManDownUnder** · 2nd August 2007, 10:18

This kinda is like user pays in NZ though. I pay for a lot of people on the dole... Can I use them?

What are the limits? Am I allowed to pick the cute female ones only or do I need a reasonable spread across all demographics?

I have a house to paint, gardens to be completed...

**The Pastor** · 2nd August 2007, 10:57

did u see that highly sienticific programme myth busters? they did drug tests after eating poppy seed bagles and failed for like 3 days after consumtion. it was on tv so it must be true.

the drug tested was opium.

**u4ea** · 2nd August 2007, 18:43

Originally Posted by renegade master

did u see that highly sienticific programme myth busters? they did drug tests after eating poppy seed bagles and failed for like 3 days after consumtion. it was on tv so it must be true.

the drug tested was opium.

What you talkin bout Willis????......Now the honest bagel is bad for your health.

**riffer** · 2nd August 2007, 19:01

I don't really care about the unemployed. Most of the time it's their choice. The government is going to take my taxes anyway so meh. Plenty of other things I'd rather they don't use my money for as well. Americas Cup to start with...

I don't take drugs so I don't give a shit about drug testing. Having to inject yourself six times a day kinda makes you over that.

How about we set up shooting galleries for all the addicts. Then give them uncut smack and sit back and watch Darwin's law take effect on the losers.

**Paul in NZ** · 2nd August 2007, 19:11

I'd be more into giving them all a smart card with some biometric ID in it so they can only claim ONE benefit....

**Mr. Peanut** · 2nd August 2007, 19:33

I'd rather they took the dole than my wallet. If a few spend it on drugs, so be it. It's worth it for the fact that there are a few who really need it.

**kro** · 2nd August 2007, 20:35

Get a pregnant womans pee, and submit that. That oughta raise a few eye brows.

**_Shrek_** · 2nd August 2007, 21:15

Originally Posted by R1madness

As an employer i support drug testing, but as a human being i support the freedom of choice. I dont care if my employee has a drink in the weekend or a puff, as long as they do not turn up to work wasted. After all pot was only banned in the face of pressure form alcohol and tabacco industries in the late 1920s in USA. They dont like compitition

i agree R1 i use to give the guys 6 weeks notice then go with them and do the test also
its hard to find good bushman on the east coast that dont smoke weed after work or on weekends
if their test proved + i would give them another test in 4 weeks and they had to pass... but if i caught them smoking in the morning or stoned @ work it was