Chef stabs assailant and now faces prison.

[imdying]

Stay away from dodgey areas.

Like public transport systems?

[terbang]

Iraq's a great example of the moment.

And if you say that in the context that the US invasion of Iraq is a vigilante act. Then I'll shout yer beer.

[jrandom]

I'm all for law and order but if attacked by a group of pricks, I'll defend myself and show how sharp my teeth really are as well. Though it probably wouldn't involve sticking a knife into someone.

Hang on, you're not agreeing with me, are you?

[terbang]

Well yeah, sometimes you have to agree to agree as well.

[justsomeguy]

Have you ever actually called in an assault in progress?

Yes.

"I see, do you need an ambulance? No? Ok. Please drive to the nearest station and report it." Then they did sweet f'ck all. Still nothing.

A couple of weeks later - when I saw the guy and called 111.

"I'm sorry there is nothing we can do at the moment, the nearest police station is Onehunga, please visit there during office hours and report your sighting".

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If I didn't decide to be a bigger man and let karma get them, plans were in place for house calls...

Vigilante justice does have it's place and these guys deserve everything they get.... Unless you use your Chinook to pick your nose.

... and you reckon the book's wrong?

Yes it is, for it doesn't take the random nature of human reaction into account.

[rwh]

....Anyway, I can't help but wonder why this chef was carrying such a knife in the first place. Can't he leave his tools of trade at his place of work? ...

Having run a pub/restauant in the UK I cant think of any chef who left his knives unattended at his place of work.

They are very possesive of the tools of their trade and never risk leaving them.

Those chefs who have worked their way through from prep to chef have probably built their collection of knives up over a number of years and spent a lot of money on them. They will not leave them in the kitchen or similar place.

This bit puzzles me. I thought these guys kept their fancy knives in fancy cases - not the sort of thing you'd be able to extract one from in the heat of a fight? Was this guy carrying it loose in case he needed it on the dodgy bus? In that case, IMHO, he was carrying an offensive weapon.

Richard

[terbang]

Fark I'm slow today..!

As far as shoot-to-wound goes: If it comes to the crunch I'll shoot and keep on shooting until the 'target' does as I say - and that will be "lie down on the ground".

Totaly agree. No good shooting to wound if youve got one of CB's famous casseroles in mind too.

[Mr Merde]

This bit puzzles me. I thought these guys kept their fancy knives in fancy cases - not the sort of thing you'd be able to extract one from in the heat of a fight? Was this guy carrying it loose in case he needed it on the dodgy bus? In that case, IMHO, he was carrying an offensive weapon.

Richard

Had one chef who kept his in a canvas roll.

Sort of like a builders apron.

Each knife had its own compartment.

When all in it was rolled up and tied off with a cord round the middle.

You could easily extract a knife from the open end where the handles were.

I guess he may have had this sort of roll as you dont really get to look which knife you are getting, just the handle

Hope this makes sense.

[jrandom]

"I see, do you need an ambulance? No? Ok. Please drive to the nearest station and report it."

You called and said "Person A is beating up on person B. Help!" and they said that?

Something smells wrong.

Unless you use your Chinook to pick your nose.

It's put down and taken apart a few critters, but it mostly gets used in the kitchen, to be honest.

Yes it is, for it doesn't take the random nature of human reaction into account.

Human reactions are not random. They can be both anticipated and trained.

[peasea]

[QUOTE=Mr Merde;1162561]

....Anyway, I can't help but wonder why this chef was carrying such a knife in the first place. Can't he leave his tools of trade at his place of work? ...quote]

Having run a pub/restauant in the UK I cant think of any chef who left his knives unattended at his place of work.

They are very possesive of the tools of their trade and never risk leaving them.

Those chefs who have worked their way through from prep to chef have probably built their collection of knives up over a number of years and spent a lot of money on them. They will not leave them in the kitchen or similar place.

Thank you for that insight, I did wonder.
Funny they don't provide suitable lockers for them in that case. It can't be cool to commute all the time with a pack of knives under your jacket.

With that; I'd say why the bloody hell doesn't said chef defend the charge?

[toycollector10]

This thread has stirred it up a bit...

Lots of opinions which is great but get this...

Some citizen gets on a bus, just wants to get home for tea and to settle down by the fire. Then some idiots want to disturb him. Assault him. Hurt him. Flash-bang-boom and then he's inside doing jail time.

I don't give a shit about the rights and wrongs of knifing some c*nt that deserves it.

The shame is that chef-boy has to do time for reacting the way he did, reacting unexpectedly and violently......that was just in his nature is my guess...

I hope I get called for jury duty, he will walk!

[davereid]

I hope I get called for jury duty, he will walk!

Yep, thats how I would vote too.. none of this being lectured on the law of self-defense.

They started it. He finished it.

As long as the facts are as stated I'd send him home. (In a taxi though)

[Street Gerbil]

Bullies thrive on those who leave response to the police. The worst nightmare of a bully is a victim that fights back. The little shit just got the taste of his own medicine. Serves him perfectly right.
Good luck Mr. Chef, I am praying for you. I hope you walk free.
P.S. Re: Lethality. A friend of my parents was beaten to death by an unarmed gang of teenagers. They peacefully asked him to take off his trousers and he refused.

[toycollector10]

Hi Street Gerbil..yes, was that the poor bastard up on Colombo. The Mercedes did a U-turn, they piled out and killed him. For what, the wrong coloured trousers? Was that the circumstance?

[Street Gerbil]

Hi Street Gerbil..yes, was that the poor bastard up on Colombo. The Mercedes did a U-turn, they piled out and killed him. For what, the wrong coloured trousers? Was that the circumstance?

No that was back in '79 in the old country. This guy was wearing expensive jeans brought from abroad (that kind was not sold in stores and was something of a status symbol) and the gang leader decided that he wants it. In court they explained that they have never met any resistance and "were outraged by his insolence and decided to teach him some respect". They were not on drugs or even inebriated. They were just drunk with power over "lesser human beings". Same as folks in our story.