Uni lecturer sacked

[outlawtorn]

I am so sick of people getting into shit for telling it straight. This leturer must have heard thousands of dumb exscuses, some real some not, but I am fucking fed up with this political correctness bullshit, people in this day and age need to fucking wake up to the shit our parents and grandparents had to deal with, grow a set and carry on with life.

FUCK PC!

[Steam]

This whole thing has NOTHING to do with being PC, it's about respect.

If a lecturer said I couldn't have an extension "just because my father died" he'd soon find himself with a broken nose on the floor.
I'd take that assault charge and hold it high.
Family is everything; by disrespecting that "excuse" he disrespects my father. Nobody disrespects my family.
The lecturer is a bastard and deserved to go.

It has NOTHING to do with being PC, it's about respect.

[avgas]

I think the lecturer was just having a bad day.
but yes - uni is a bitch if you don't do the work. So i suggest the student picks up this challenge and attempts to pass.
As long as u finish within 8 years your fine.
Some lecturers are just cocks.

[Dilligaf]

I have been too nice and given you too high marks all along (at C+). I do not anticipate that you will do better in the final exercise. You are already a day late.

OKay this is my problem with the lecturer. The above quote is taken from the email.
My reply to this is to call bullshit. Sorry, you don't get to bitch AFTER the fact if you've been "too nice" before. Tough titties Mr Buchanan - you should have scored her at her appropriate level.
Smacks of passive aggressive behaviour which is a real red flag to me.

[Albino]

Has anyone determined if the father has actually died or whether the lecturer is right?

I did a post grad course at auckland uni recently. They need to realise that they can boost the numbers with sub-standard students if they like (this increases the funding for "real" uni work like research), but in doing so they are sacrificing the quality of the education and devaluing the University of Auckland brand in the process. Students should have to meet pre-requisite standards for any post graduate course - both knowledge and the communication medium (english).

I can imagine how frustrating this must be for lecturers (actually I know because I talked to some of them about it). It affects their work, their happiness in the job, and ultimately the students. How would you feel working for an institution that in your eyes has "sold out".

[Hitcher]

I think that Mr Lecturer is a dickhead. One would think/hope that somebody in his position would be more skilled at crafting emails and at least review them prior to hitting the "send" command. I detect an intellectual arrogance that seems to permeate from some academics.

Should he have been sacked? No.

[caesius]

I think that Mr Lecturer is a dickhead. One would think/hope that somebody in his position would be more skilled at crafting emails and at least review them prior to hitting the "send" command. I detect an intellectual arrogance that seems to permeate from some academics.

Should he have been sacked? No.

Yes OK I agree he could have been less of a dickhead. But maybe he just lost the plot because of having to deal with this on a regular basis/the very thing he is payed to do (and probably admires) is being degraded in front of him.

[Albino]

I think that Mr Lecturer is a dickhead.........I detect an intellectual arrogance that seems to permeate from some academics.

A lot of them are and most don't live in the real world, having never left a learning institution in their entire lives. Some go into politics aftewards . The best lecturers I had were the part-timers that had real jobs and were able to relate the theory to the real world.

One would think/hope that somebody in his position would be more skilled at crafting emails and at least review them prior to hitting the "send" command.

True but how many of us have almost done the same.... There's certainly a few posts on KB where the submit button shouldnt have been pressed!

[Skyryder]

Not the sort of thing I would expect someone to be sacked for. A rap over the knuckles just to send the message that his email was out of line.

When it comes to family deaths I think the student should have been given the benifit of the doubt, just so the lecturer can cover his arse. But sacking the guy. That's just plain dumb. Hope he wins his claim. There's more to this than meets the eye.

Skyryder

[terbang]

An un-PC and insensitive walk sox and sandal wearer..! Sheesh, whats the world coming to.

[mynameis]

Most of you aren't taking a rational approach towards this and can only look beyond your noses. There are two sides of a coin and it must be considered before you draw conclusions.

1) The whole story of the student is legit.
2) The student lied about her father's death.

Either case think about how a lecturer or anyone with a little bit of common sense should deal with this. Only "Steam" seems to have got it right in my opinion.

Whether it was legit or not his comments and approach towards the student was definitely not acceptable at all. And he has given out a big spill to the media over the fact he deals with this on a regular basis, Uni is compromising it's standards and that he was having a bad day with colleagues, excuses in general.

And everyone seems to be shadowed over these issues instead of focusing on the main issue which is his comments to the student.

His comments were outright disgusting, revolting, and racist, demeaning towards basic humanity and of very insensitive nature. I am shocked and appalled at this and thank Auckland Uni for firing him.

This sort of behaviour should never be accepted in our Kiwi culture and should not be tolerated at all. It's one of the worst stages in one's life, losing a parent and Paul Buchanan’s attitude towards the poor student is extremely unprofessional and unethical.

[Animal]

Thoughts?

Hell no! I'm under-qualified!

[Albino]

I had to fire some one a couple of years ago. Anyone who has had to do this in NZ knows how hard it can be (by the book). This guy had an excuse for everything. By the end of the drawn out process if he had used the excuse of his father dying for not having finished some work I quite frankly wouldn't have believed him unless he was obviously in distress or on a plane flying back home for the funeral.

If you've always got an excuse for something then people stop believing you. It's human nature.

While I admit the lecturer did act stupidly, I must apologise for I do see a bigger issue in the story than one student being abused. I see an underlying problem of which this may have been a symptom.

[Grahameeboy]

This whole thing has NOTHING to do with being PC, it's about respect.

If a lecturer said I couldn't have an extension "just because my father died" he'd soon find himself with a broken nose on the floor.
I'd take that assault charge and hold it high.
Family is everything; by disrespecting that "excuse" he disrespects my father. Nobody disrespects my family.
The lecturer is a bastard and deserved to go.

It has NOTHING to do with being PC, it's about respect.

I read the e-mail on the front page of the Herald and bad day or not what he said was way out of order...he was asking for proof of the Father's death etc.

Yep maybe the student was crap, however, does not give Mr B an reason to write the e-mail in the manner he did.

I am sure he will not be short of a job and maybe he did it for a reason...given that he is an expert at 'Strategy'

[Clockwork]

If the student had lied about her Father's death it would take some balls to complain about the response.