Chef stabs assailant and now faces prison.

[justsomeguy]

I hope I get called for jury duty, he will walk!

Same here.

[Delerium]

A good point and close to the origional thrust of this thread. I can operate outside the law as much as I like until it backfires on me and I get hurt. Then I will take advantage of it's full protection.
As a result of 'the rights of criminals' we have to sit around and wait for the cops while being out-numbered and punched in the head for wearing the wrong coloured clothes. I'm all for law and order but if attacked by a group of pricks, I'll defend myself and show how sharp my teeth really are as well. Though it probably wouldn't involve sticking a knife into someone.
However, it is a reality that there are shitheads out there who want to do bad stuff to us and it is better to prevent than react. Stay away from dodgey areas.

Exactly, carrying out a criminal act often as in this case involves taking away the rights of others. You do that you should have yours taken away from you.

[Delerium]

This is why OSH is evil. It stops natural selection and keeps the dumb ones alive.

[Storm]

This is why OSH is evil. It stops natural selection and keeps the dumb ones alive.

Quite right. Darwin is being robbed of his prime candidates these days, by PC bs, and all the bleeding heart liberals.

[Indiana_Jones]

Well that stupid cunt of a hood rat had to expect a reaction, maybe the chef over-reacted (but it's one of those spur of the moment things, we've all been there), but still a reaction non-the-less.

-Indy

[Mr Merde]

Just a question for you all to ponder and an attempt at keeping an interesting discussion going (well to me it is anyway)


I have noticed in this thread a couple of mentions of the


Criminal Justice System

Is it called that because only the criminals can expect justice?


Stirring the pot.

[Street Gerbil]

[SIZE=4][COLOR=red]Criminal Justice System
Is it called that because only the criminals can expect justice?

The little shit got his share of criminal justice. Too bad he found it hard to stomach (pun intended).

[Patrick]

He wasn't carrying a weapon, he was carrying his work tools. If I catch a bus with my torque wrench, get accosted by some piece of shit coons that need to get cleansed from the gene pool, and beat one of the little pricks round the swede with it, that still doesn't make it a weapon.

Anything in its normal form is not a weapon, unless specifically designed as such. When he chose to use it as a weapon, it became one, just like your wrench would. The wrench is not a weapon, but use it as one, it becomes one.

Hence the lack of charges relating to carrying an offensive weapon, I suspect.

He was hit with a big one... you don't normally worry about the minor stuff. Murderers don't get charged with weapon offences, what is the point?

I think it boils down to one of two things being the case. Either:

(a) Mr Chef shouldn't have drawn; or

(b) Mr Chef should be defending the charge.

I vote (b)....

[QUOTE=Mr Merde;1162561]

....Anyway, I can't help but wonder why this chef was carrying such a knife in the first place.

They are extremely valuable and personal tools. Would you leave yours lying around work? I can't even leave my torch lying around or it goes "walkies."

OH MY GOD - lots of people were calling him names, and and and someone threw something... *sob*.

STILL a dumb move. STILL no excuse for raising things to a lethal threat, and to do it in the face of potentially overwhelming force? Either brave or (more likely) stupid... fuelled by testosterone.

These little shites were raising the ante throughout, and no doubt would have kept raising it, once they got off the bus to follow him perhaps? (Until he reacted and stopped it?).

Both sides simply need to be accountable for their behaviour.... don't they?

Exactly... what about the ones who threw stuff and punched him???

Unless one is a veteran police officer/firefighter/ambo or defence force recruit there is no bloody way in hell that they can "predict" their reaction under immediate physical threat.

How can these guys predict exactly how they would react? I couldn't, and I am classed as a veteran.

[Goblin]

These little shites were raising the ante throughout, and no doubt would have kept raising it, once they got off the bus to follow him perhaps? (Until he reacted and stopped it?).

Exactly... what about the ones who threw stuff and punched him???

I'd like to know why the police havn't charged the little shits with assault at the very least. What about Public nuisance or disturbing the peace....there must be something they can charge them with. If they only do Mr Chef then that sends the clear message to the little shits that they can keep doing this kind of shit and the police WILL protect them. Next time they're in their little gang on the streets, I bet they do more than throw rubbish an punch someone in the face. It's what these lowlife little mongrel scumbags are taught from birth and now the law enforces it. These shits will think they're untouchable now.

[Mr Merde]

... they can keep doing this kind of shit and the police WILL protect them. ....
. These shits will think they're untouchable now.

Yep and more than likely ACC will pay them out with megabucks if in the course of their activities they get hurt in anyway.

[ManDownUnder]

I'd like to know why the police havn't charged the little shits with assault at the very least.

OH MY GOD Ain't that the truth! Bling given...

[jazbug5]

Bah, he deserves to go to jail.... for not cutting that stupid little niggers head off.

Um... am I the only one here who has a problem with this post?

FWIW I agree with what Mr. Random has been saying. It's all too easy to kill someone with a knife if you don't know what you're doing. If you do, there are lots of ways to make superficial injuries that either slow them down or bleed so much they freak out.. but it can STILL go horribly wrong, and if your assailant is unarmed then you are going to jail.

[davereid]

...if your assailant is unarmed then you are going to jail.

Not if I'm on the jury... I don't care if you throttle, stab, shoot or push the bad guy off a bridge.. I won't send you to jail, all I'd do is buy you a beer after the hearing!

[Street Gerbil]

Um... am I the only one here who has a problem with this post?.

I truly hope that the answer is "yes".

there are lots of ways to make superficial injuries that either slow them down or bleed so much they freak out..

That's suicide from the tactical standpoint. You either absorb the attack and fall back or retaliate in full force in order to eliminate the threat. Limited response merely invites intensified attacks from the assailant.

if your assailant is unarmed then you are going to jail.

Note that "assailant" is the key word here. The right to self-defense is one of the most basic human rights in my book. The assailant or as it happened in this specific case "assailant_S_" do not require to be armed to pose a lethal threat. As I mentioned earlier, a friend of my parents was beaten to death by a gang of unarmed teenagers in similar circumstances (sans the knife).

[imdying]

It's all too easy to kill someone with a knife if you don't know what you're doing.

One of the things I was taught is that if I was drawn into a fight at school, to only ever hit people with chairs in the arms and legs. It is all to easy to kill someone by punching them in the face/head. Thus why this man was justified in stabbing the little prick after getting a punch to the head, imho.

There has been more than one person in this country accidentally killed in a bar brawl (or whatever) by getting punched in the head... the brain does not like to bounce.

I admit it's hearsay, but potentially they as a group could've easily had him on the ground once they tailed him off the bus, and kicked him repeatedly in the head. If they do not wish to be stabbed, then they should not accost people on the bus who are merely going home from work... and for what? Because in their little hoody gang world wearing the wrong colour jacket is a good enough reason?

They should count themselves lucky that he merely defended himself and didn't psyche out and kill the lot of them, which by the way would have been doing this country a favour.

Nothing would please me more than to see hoody gang members covered in petrol and set on fire. Limb by limb.