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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot slow View Post
    Part of having a license is obeying the rules,that is stop for flashing red lights,be it cops,fire engines,ambos or train signals.These clowns no doubt would've stopped for all of them but the cops.
    Maybe not the trains as we saw lately, what better way to impress ya mates than a little run from the cops or a game of chicken with a train? Fuckin dumb cunts. Me, I'm still young but I got no time for any of these silly buggers when these young boyracers come around to see my younger brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Good old KB!!

    I cannot believe the clap-trap from some of the posts here - Police shouldn't chase - duh!

    Fucking cretins who O.D. on PS2 and crap like that shouldn't have a frickin' licence or car would be more like it.

    I've seen a lot of younger boy-racer types drive and most are crap drivers - they can wind the car up through the gears in a hurry (most of the time) but one thing is sure - they have no idea when it comes to judging speeds, road conditions and perceived dangers, why? because they're dicks with little real driver training/experience and an inflated ego.

    So the ideas of the bleeding hearts is that "should any car attempt in any way to out-pace a police vehicle with blue and red flashing that is following it then said police vehicle should immediatley pull over and cease to follow the departing car"
    Bloody brilliant - even MORE driving dorks will attempt to get away - after all the brainless slack-jawed mouthbreathers already beleive that urban myth "If you go over 160kph the cops have to call the chase off"!!

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    Bit over the top isn't it? Only 2 posters out of 43 have disagreed and one (me) had reservations. Bloody KB, only 94% agree with me

    But you're certainly on the money regarding the cretins who shouldn't be allowed a licence in the first place.

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    Next we will be saying runners (on foot) from a bank robbery should not be pursued in case they trip and hurt them selves, or run into an innocent bystander and hurt them.
    Maybe a bit of an exaggerated scenario but come on. They are breaking some kind of law, so they run. Running is breaking the law. They are now speeding so that's another law broken. What kind of message is letting them get away with a minimum of three broken laws going to send the public.

    I feel for the police in this scenario. They are people as well and I am sure they don't enjoy pulling up to the aftermath of this type of event.

    I also think the media should back the f**k off and give the family some space after these types of events. They are simply trying to make money at the family's expense. Quoting a clearly distraught and grieving sister because what she said will sell papers, I didn't see any of the fathers comments in that Herald article.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sara (dead boys sister) in the nzherald
    She urged drivers, particularly young ones, not to flee when signalled to pull over.
    "Do try to stop," she said.
    Even with her best intentions here she is sending the wrong message. All drives should stop regardless of age. Not try to stop, STOP!

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    I feel a small measure of sympathy for the family because they've lost someone, but the cops were right to chase, and the kid getting killed was nobody's fault but his own. Yeah, I'm sad he died, but I would've been significantly more sad if he'd been left to race off laughing at his own ingenuity and hit and killed a pedestrian, cyclist or biker a block further down the road. Or me! I'll bet the sister wouldn't be anywhere near as vocal in defending the family of that victim! Or me, for that matter!

    Nah, good on the cops, I believe they did the right thing. I don't want to have to share the road with arrogant and cowardly fuckwits who choose to run away from the punishment they deserve, because it puts me and my loved ones in danger. And you and your loved ones.

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    Having just wasted 30 minutes on this subject - another couple to post my 2 cents worth.
    He chose to not stop when signalled to,
    He chose to accelerate to high speed into a 70kph area,
    The cop was hardly chasing him - he turned around and was 500 metres behind,
    The driver may still have crashed if the cop had turned on his disco lights and then stopped at the side of the road for a cup of tea,
    The media chose to publish a statement from the sister that she may have been pressured into making,
    The father held up really well and his statements were balanced.


    I hope the cop is getting plenty of support from colleagues and family. And yes they should attempt to stop a fleeing criminal.
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    well bout bloody time these young shits stood up for them selves you fuck up you know whats going to happen not have a pc socitey who lays the blame on everyone else the cops did right to chase him even if the outcome wasnt brillant his fault entirley he chose to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insane1 View Post
    well bout bloody time these young shits stood up for them selves you fuck up you know whats going to happen not have a pc socitey who lays the blame on everyone else the cops did right to chase him even if the outcome wasnt brillant his fault entirley he chose to run.
    Well maybe. Some of these kids don't understand at a raw gut level what the consequences might be.
    I remember at high school, the year most of us turned 15 and were eligible for a licence, we were shown 2 films. They were made by a State Highway patrol in the States and they were absolutely horrific. It was basically an analysis of several car accidents with nothing held back. It was all there - the pieces of people being gathered into plastic bags, the charred corpses, the unrecognisable bloody wrecks - all in glorious colour
    It stays with me to this day.
    Even at the age of 15, it made me realise I wasn't 10 foot tall and I certainly wasn't bullet proof.
    It didn't make me an angel on the road. I still did heaps of stupid things. However, they were somewhat restrained by what I had seen

    I think something like this, should be compulsory at the time of applying to sit for a licence.
    Our current society will never accept it, but once it was OK and it helped.
    How do we go back a little way?
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    bass this gives me an idea why in the hell dont we make it compulsary to ride a 50cc scooter 6months minimum bfore you even look at a car licence might just teach them something bout cause and effect you screw up on even a little 50 and it"s going to hurt and you cant run far on a 50 anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insane1 View Post
    bass this gives me an idea why in the hell dont we make it compulsary to ride a 50cc scooter 6months minimum bfore you even look at a car licence might just teach them something bout cause and effect you screw up on even a little 50 and it"s going to hurt and you cant run far on a 50 anyway.
    I agree. It would achieve the desired results but you will never get our society to accept the increased risk to the youngsters. That's why I advocated scare tactics. Nobody actually gets hurt.
    I know that some of the ads that we are shown are along these lines and many believe that they don't work.
    My opinion is that they don't go far enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by insane1 View Post
    bass this gives me an idea why in the hell dont we make it compulsary to ride a 50cc scooter 6months minimum bfore you even look at a car licence might just teach them something bout cause and effect you screw up on even a little 50 and it"s going to hurt and you cant run far on a 50 anyway.
    Haha, great idea, in the uk, it's only 50cc for the learners. Think they're onto something there.
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    I drive past the sites of two boy racer smash death scenes daily going to work (they constantly show them on TV whenever), there are plenty more trees, bridges & boy racers left.
    The outcomes are as pathetic as the results.
    Who is this boy to take risks with his friend in the car, they are driving weapons they cannot control, and should be dealt with accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldrider View Post
    I drive past the sites of two boy racer smash death scenes daily going to work (they constantly show them on TV whenever), there are plenty more trees, bridges & boy racers left.
    The outcomes are as pathetic as the results.
    Who is this boy to take risks with his friend in the car, they are driving weapons they cannot control, and should be dealt with accordingly.
    I wonder how many parents buy a car for their child who is still on a Learner or Restricted licence (or hands them the keys to the family car) and lets them head off into town on the weekend knowing they are going to pick up mates - or even let said mates drive the car without knowing (or caring) what sort of licence the mate has (if any).

    I've had one guy say "Aw man this not fair, why are you impounding my car?"
    Me: "Cos she's disqualified - you knew that didn't you?"
    Him "Yeah but it's still not fair"
    Me: "Well welcome to the rest of your life - it's riddled with 'not fairs'."
    Him "eh?"

    AH, the innocence (read stupidity, childishness and short-sightedness) of youth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    I wonder how many parents buy a car for their child who is still on a Learner or Restricted licence (or hands them the keys to the family car) and lets them head off into town on the weekend knowing they are going to pick up mates - or even let said mates drive the car without knowing (or caring) what sort of licence the mate has (if any).
    There is heaps of that in our town (sorry village). Too much wealth, kids are getting cars that are out of their depth, plus the parents don't want shitter cars parked outside their residences.
    But what is of concern is that the parents are turning a blind eye to what their kids are doing, daddy on TV last night saying I told my son to pull over if he got busted...., surely you would teach your son not to get into those circumstances in the first place.
    Thats putting the bandaid on after the accident.
    Some of the parents have the same attitude as their childen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldrider View Post
    There is heaps of that in our town (sorry village). Too much wealth, kids are getting cars that are out of their depth, plus the parents don't want shitter cars parked outside their residences.
    But what is of concern is that the parents are turning a blind eye to what their kids are doing, daddy on TV last night saying I told my son to pull over if he got busted...., surely you would teach your son not to get into those circumstances in the first place.
    Thats putting the bandaid on after the accident.
    Some of the parents have the same attitude as their childen.
    AND they insure (and sometimes register)the car in their name because they know their kid would never get insurance or it would cost lots more.

    BTW In one such case the insurance company dropped the claim like a hot turd when they found the alleged 'owner' was not the 'principal driver' -Sonny-Jim was using the modified Skyline daily, the dad never drove it ('who the hell would want to be caught driving THAT').
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    The boys in blue take a lot of unjustified bulls*#t...
    The chap was the one who chose to run, we have to be thankful he only took himself out... my 2 cents
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