Charged with dangerous driving. What's going to happen?

[skidMark]

you will see me riding whichever bike i like...

in a nannerly slow safe boomerlike fashion.

[scumdog]

but will they take my bike and sell it? thats what matters to me....it has too much sentimental value, it's currently in impound for 28 days...

Shoulda though of that before you got busted ding-a-ling!!!

[skidMark]

Shoulda though of that before you got busted ding-a-ling!!!

i didnt get busted i demanded that the cops come.

not the result i had in mind though

[Patrick]

apparently being my first conviction i can apply for a "diversion" but somebody else reckoned you had to be under 18 to get it?

anybody able to enlighten?

As disqualification applies, there is no diversion.

i also meet all of the criteria for the "clean slate" law

explained here....

http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/othe...e/english.html

according to a mate this would mean there would be no court appearance etc.

As above... and yes, you will have to appear. Dont go, and a warrant will be issued for your arrest.

Having read about some of your "exploits" I wonder if I should... but hey... what the.....

Your bike can not be impounded for Dangerous Driving. Is there more to the story...???

Boy racer act legislation will take it from ya, (Sustained Loss of Traction, Unnecessary Display of Speed, partaking in a drag race...etc)... not dangerous driving... If it is only dangerous, point this out to the officer in charge (Senior Sgt at the Station) and seek its release on appeal (That stuff on the rear of the impound notice...).

[sunhuntin]

Whether or not the other witnesses had it in for you...
...it seems to me you had this coming.
It would have happened one way or another eventually.

Can't say I care much.

+1

i aint even gonna bother with this one...

[skidMark]

As disqualification applies, there is no diversion.



As above... and yes, you will have to appear. Dont go, and a warrant will be issued for your arrest.

Having read about some of your "exploits" I wonder if I should... but hey... what the.....

Your bike can not be impounded for Dangerous Driving. Is there more to the story...???

Boy racer act legislation will take it from ya, (Sustained Loss of Traction, Unnecessary Display of Speed, partaking in a drag race...etc)... not dangerous driving... If it is only dangerous, point this out to the officer in charge (Senior Sgt at the Station) and seek its release on appeal (That stuff on the rear of the impound notice...).

it was dangerous and nothing else....

from whati have rread prior disqualification does not apply (was just build up of demerits)

andi do not have an impound notice they ndid not give me one when they relqeased me the said they should have given you one or it should be in your bag....

but it was not.

they said i will have to ask at court.

[Spyke]

man i feel for ya, but i can see that habbits need to change. (man i sound like my mum).

[yod]

i seriously question your version of events;

you say you decided not to turn right so you could chase the guy and get his rego and do the responsible thing because he was driving dangerously...umm...ok....then you say you passed him.....WHY?? why not stop, turn around and head back to where you were heading in the first place and then report the incident after you got to your destination?

sounds more to me like he decided to cane it and you saw a chance to have a bit of a race......

just my guess....

[mbazza]

it was dangerous and nothing else....

from whati have rread prior disqualification does not apply (was just build up of demerits)

Oh well, if it was just a build up of demerits then it wasn't your fault was it? It was the fault of the naughty rossers for catching you and writing you up! You poor thing! GROW UP! Chairs.

[skidMark]

i seriously question your version of events;

you say you decided not to turn right so you could chase the guy and get his rego and do the responsible thing because he was driving dangerously...umm...ok....then you say you passed him.....WHY?? why not stop, turn around and head back to where you were heading in the first place and then report the incident after you got to your destination?

sounds more to me like he decided to cane it and you saw a chance to have a bit of a race......

just my guess....

because i wanted to be able to identify the driver at a laterc stage if need be.

[Brett]

Bloody hell, karma is going to bite some of you sanctimonious, speed kills, legalists on the arse with your attitudes.
I have said before, Mark does some stupid things yes, gonna get him in trouble, yes. Maybe this is karma...yes. But the absolute glee that some of you get from this incident and the grief/piss taking he continually gets pisses me off. Constructive group peer pressure/dissapproval when one has been an idiot is one thing (bring back the stock and rotten veges maybe) but some of you need to chill out.

Mark - Learn the lesson fella! You are getting into too much shit far too regularly. One day it may cost you dearly...more so than loosing any bike. This is advice outside of this incident as someone who reckons you are alright.

On the topic at hand, sounds like you got a bit of a rough deal, based on your post above. I nearly got done about 6 years ago as an 18 year old drving a black sports car at midnight and was pulled over by a cop who decided to cause some shit. He fabricated claims to fine me for, and when challenged, offered to arrest me and let me have a night in a government hotel. As I had work at 7:30am that morning, I kindly declined and had to suck it up. I know how it feels.
I doubt you will get more than a 6 month disqual, maybe 12months if you are really unlucky as I seem to recal you have lost your licence once before. You will also get a fine of sorts, but probably wil get the bike back. Otherwise, keep an eye on the police auctions and buy it back.

Hope it works out for you, hope you learn the lesson. As tempting as it is, taking the law into your own hands seldom works, heaven knows I have tried, and struggle with the same thing sometimes when morons nearly take me out on the road.

[sunhuntin]

i think, brett, most here have gone past the offer good advice and hold off the pisstaking stage. seems almost every week mark fucks up somewhere, and then comes and cries foul. in this case, it would appear he fucked up trying to do the right thing, which sucks, but there must be a reason why ALL witnesses wish him ill?

mom... how young is young? ive been riding since i was about 20... started learning at 18 [buggered off overseas and continued the education from the pillion seat] im now 22, and have travelled as far north as paeroa, and as far south as invercargill. some 20,000k if not more.
in those k's, ive been hit once, which was not my fault [she ran a stop sign] and have gone off the road once, which was a combo of my fault, and the guy in front of me's fault for overtaking on a corner.
i learned from both. the first: approach intersections with caution, and the second: dont ride with that guy!
somehow ive managed to go all that distance without a single ticket or raised brow from a cop. it aint hard.

[ZeroIndex]

You're going to Court. You will be asked to plead guilty or not guilty.

You should take legal advice from a Court-appointed lawyer. They're not on the "same side" as the Police. They will instruct you on your rights and the potential consequences of choosing a a particular plea. Unless you have good witnesses and solid evidence that contradicts the Police's case, you will undoubtedly be found guilty and convicted. Pleading guilty in the first instance may allow you to broker a more advantageous deal than allowing a Judge to throw the book at you.

Take advice from the Court-appointed lawyer. I say that most sincerely as a taxpayer who is picking up the tab for your indiscretion.

I agree with Hitcher on this one... the court-appointed lawyer (also known as a duty solicitor) is your best source of free advice and defense... If you can, go for the diversion, otherwise something bad will probably happen

[ZeroIndex]

Do what Hitcher said. Dress nicely for court, look sorry, do not smirk. They are going to fine you like you can't imagine. The court appointed lawyer will try and scam it such that you can pay it back at $20/week. However, if you're already doing so due to ... say ... previous convictions then I'd reckon your chances are significantly lowered.

So, yes, they might sell the bike to pay your fine. And you will almost certainly be gaining a criminal conviction. And you will have to own up to it every time you go abroad for the rest of your life and some places may not let you in because of it. (Jokes about Australia and criminal convictions for another day, please). Certainly your insurance costs are going to be through the fucking roof for the next five years at least and probably ten.

You are not gonna do porridge. It's expensive and only, really, for people who pose an ongoing threat to society. Once they've flogged the bike that won't include you.

I'd buy some nice comfy shoes if I were you. And a bus pass. And be thankful you're still fucking alive because many better men and women aren't.

Dave

No, that's where you're wrong... don't dress nicely (suit and tie) for court... dress pants and shirt, stay away from the suit and tie... suit and tie means you're guilty/you can afford a huge fine...

[Mom]

mom... how young is young?

I have no idea really, but I am still young in my mind, and I am not far off my next "0" birthday!

somehow ive managed to go all that distance without a single ticket or raised brow from a cop. it aint hard.

Good for you, unfortunately I have a few black marks against my driving record, and some of those nasty demerit point things. Mind you I have quite a few years on you so I guess there is time for you to get "caught" and for your halo to get a bit burnished.