Run for your lives! Here come the vegans.

**Hitcher** · 2nd September 2007, 21:20

Originally Posted by jazbug5

PS Re the original post- seems a bit of a leap from a simple labelling improvement to help people make an informed choice, to troops of limp, anaemic vegenazis forcing innocent citizens to consume tofu under menaces.

Governments set targets. When passive measures fail to produce the "desired" results, stricter interventions and regulations surely follow. Today voluntary food "traffic lights", next thing there will be "fat" taxes and other constraints on "non-complaint" foodstuffs. Mark my words. The chippie aisles at supermarkets will soon be filled with sliced organic carrots and tofu kebabs. Illicit drug dealers will be able to replenish the shelves now burdened with party pills with Eta's range of coronarys in a foil bag until these evel products are banned in their entirety. This issue is nothing to do with "informed choice". It's about dietary facism.

**imdying** · 2nd September 2007, 21:25

So what has being a meat eater go to do with the government wanting to reduce obesity? Apart from vegos being undernourished?

**devnull** · 2nd September 2007, 21:31

I didn't get to the top of the food chain by eating nothing but veges....

And the biggest target the govt has is Helen, though I think a few others would probably look good through a set of sights as well... :-)

**Ocean1** · 2nd September 2007, 21:48

Originally Posted by imdying

So what has being a meat eater go to do with the government wanting to reduce obesity? Apart from vegos being undernourished?

Having removed much of the natural consequences of poor lifestyle choices by the judicious redistribution of funds via ACC the system now finds it necessary to artificially modify our behaviour to minimise those costs.

Artificial markets are always transient, they modify consumer behaviour which eventually renders the original intervention pointless, a natural (unregulated) supply and demand is ultimately the only tenable system.

Public funded health and safety insurance at a nominal price for everyone simply isn't affordable given increasingly sedentary lifestyles, convenience foods and overburdened expectations of what a health system can and can't do. Either you restrict access to health services or you attempt to modify behaviour which contributes to poor health. Or you give up and hand the problem back to the private sector, and immediately and comprehensively loose your mandate to govern.

Jeez, who'd be Helen huh?

**kro** · 2nd September 2007, 22:17

Whole foods ftw. Man was never meant to eat vegetables alone, and meat is good. GOOD !!!

**jazbug5** · 2nd September 2007, 23:40

Originally Posted by jrandom

Are you implying that the hell within you is now completely excised, or just slightly reduced?

Unfortunately, the hell within remains roughly the same, what with the regular 'topping up'.
*Sigh*

Hitcher- have you got foil lining in your helmet yet...?

**Mr Merde** · 2nd September 2007, 23:45

Originally Posted by Ocean1

......, and immediately and comprehensively loose your mandate to govern.

Jeez, who'd be Helen huh?

This will never happen as those who dictate to those of us who follow, will never give up and admit they dont know everything that is good for us. Or even that their opinions and beliefs are not as important to the world as they thought.

**Ocean1** · 2nd September 2007, 23:53

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

This will never happen as those who dictate to those of us who follow, will never give up and admit they dont know everything that is good for us. Or even that their opinions and beliefs are not as important to the world as they thought.

It'll likely happen at the next election. And we'll trade one syllabus for another.

**MSTRS:Me** · 3rd September 2007, 09:20

Originally Posted by Hitcher

.... evel ...

Hitcher - I am shocked

Originally Posted by Hitcher

.... .... This issue is nothing to do with "informed choice". It's about dietary facism.

Absolutely. The 'red light' is only an interim move...soon it will be replaced with images of 500kg+ naked men or women, checkouts will be segregated into healthy/unhealthy and the PC brigade will relax a little by insisting that the cool, healthy, 'standardsize' people laugh and point at the Fatties...

**idb** · 3rd September 2007, 10:01

Originally Posted by Jantar

I don't see what the problem is. I am a vegetarian in that the only animals I eat are ones that only eat grass.

(except for chickens that eat whatever we have left over; oh and fish... we can't be sure waht they eat; and.....)

On second thoughts, maybe I'm not a vegetarian. But I do sometimes have vegetable with my meat.

What about those yummy whales?

**McJim** · 3rd September 2007, 10:08

Originally Posted by idb

What about those yummy whales?

Mmmm yeah, I wouldn't mind trying whale meat.....for research purposes only you understand.....

**Mr Merde** · 3rd September 2007, 10:10

Originally Posted by MSTRS

...the PC brigade will relax a little by insisting that the cool, healthy, 'standardsize' people laugh and point at the Fatties...

Thereby laying those persons who are above the accepted norm open to ridicule, resulting in a lowering their self esteme and creating a whole new field of employment for the PC brigade.

Support groups for the downtrodden and persecuted "large person".

Of course they (the PC brigade) will need a budget with which to implement their regime. They will write copious numbers of reports and the occasional thesis. All pointing to the fact that there is discrimination directed at those persons.

A self perpetuating industry for those who know what is best for us.