Run for your lives! Here come the vegans.

[Grahameeboy]

Hahahahahah yes indeed!!!!

Do not go any further.....or collect a Wendy's

[Ocean1]

Yes, we weren't down that troublesome road...

All we ended up being advised was Ritalin, which I VERY reluctantly tried for 3 weeks, and it actually made him worse...

I was told this could be the case, so was not disappointed. I prefer the natural alternative, and time has proven my theory and approach successful, not just from my perspective, but also as ascertained by the school and the health professionals...

i guess my son and I were one of the lucky ones as he does not have a very acute case of ADHD.

I was refering to the likely concequences for the moron boss m'dear.

[Ocean1]

You know it's interesting that you raise this issue... I help out at a boys group where 50% of the kids there are down as being ADHD. Even in my previous life as a teacher I always had suspicions that many (not all okay) but many of the cases of ADD/ADHD kids were a lack of a clip 'round the ear. But after seeing what these same ADHD kids put in their bodies I am convinced that diet has a part to play too.
Can someone please explain why as a parent of a ADHD child, one would think it's a good ideato give your little darling an ENERGY drink?!?!? GAH! Every week we see these kids arrive (8-10 year olds mind - not teenagers) and the utter crap that their parents let them put in their growing bodies really makes me :slap:

Diet does have an effect, no doubt about it. It's not the cause of ADHD though. And as far as "letting" them OD on sugar? Try stopping them once they've left the house, the school certainly doesn't.

It's the same problem as with the rest of the available food choices, sugar and fat taste good, (for evolutionary reasons that are no longer valid), so that's what sells. Knowing this might modify the behaviour of a responsible adult but keeping kids away from sugar and the impulsive and weak away from fat ain't easy when it's dangled in your face every hour of every day.

[007XX]

Can someone please explain why as a parent of a ADHD child, one would think it's a good ideato give your little darling an ENERGY drink?!?!? :

You got to wonder, don't you??? I've seen it before and am always aghast that these parents seem completely oblivious to it...Anyway, rant over for me...it just gets up my goat track, I telly ya!

I happily demolish a 500g bar in 20 minutes but have a high metabolism.

Yes, I know...we saw physical evidence of that!

But in my boss' case, he used to do body sculpting and was quite health conscious...just got lazy along the way and decided that eating himself to an earlier grave was better. Trust me, I'm not just being mean, he is asking for it.

I was refering to the likely concequences for the moron boss m'dear.

Sorry for misunderstanding your meaning Dearest! So then, I agree with you...(like that's unusual! )

[avgas]

isnt it ironic that the same number of unemployed = same number of obese = same number of jobs for people with no skills required (i.e. labour intensive, physical work)

[Hitcher]

And it's all very well to whack on about what happened in the "good old days". But only the Green Party wants to wind back that clock.

At-home Mums are becoming fewer and further between, the art of acquiring and preparing food is becoming lost, people and families are becoming cash richer and time poorer. Nobody has the time to faff around in "whole foods" shops or growing their own produce to then spend an age cooking dinner. "Fast" and processed foods fill a need and are not necessarily evel (sic). This whole issue is way bigger than food choices. It's about lifestyles, behaviour change, and acceptance and ownership of the "problem" at an individual level. If mung beans are the answer, I shudder to think what the question is.

[Ocean1]

And it's all very well to whack on about what happened in the "good old days". But only the Green Party wants to wind back that clock.

At-home Mums are becoming fewer and further between, the art of acquiring and preparing food is becoming lost, people and families are becoming cash richer and time poorer. Nobody has the time to faff around in "whole foods" shops or growing their own produce to then spend an age cooking dinner. "Fast" and processed foods fill a need and are not necessarily evel (sic). This whole issue is way bigger than food choices. It's about lifestyles, behaviour change, and acceptance and ownership of the "problem" at an individual level. If mung beans are the answer, I shudder to think what the question is.

H were you molested by a mung bean in your distant childhood? I ask only for information, they seem to feature prominently in your concerns...

Changing food supply and preparation to a mass production footing: good, a belated response to the manufacture and procurement methods which have resulted in the lifestyle we now have.

Dumping 16 teaspoons of sugar into a can of coke and adding fat to otherwise moderately benign foods because that's what sells: not good. I don't know, however if there's an adequate fix for the problem, we’re programmed to eat just that whenever possible. It’s just far more possible now than that programming allowed for. As you originally posted "education" in a political sense is both insulting and ineffective. Seems to me that pricing unhealthy foods accordingly is a good idea, but who decides which to tax, I wouldn’t trust the current crop of dieticians to decide.

As a matter of interest the “original” healthy food triangle much published in the US and which formed the basis for several decades of dietary advice was generated by… the US beef farmers guild.

[idb]

And it's all very well to whack on about what happened in the "good old days". But only the Green Party wants to wind back that clock.

At-home Mums are becoming fewer and further between, the art of acquiring and preparing food is becoming lost, people and families are becoming cash richer and time poorer. Nobody has the time to faff around in "whole foods" shops or growing their own produce to then spend an age cooking dinner. "Fast" and processed foods fill a need and are not necessarily evel (sic). This whole issue is way bigger than food choices. It's about lifestyles, behaviour change, and acceptance and ownership of the "problem" at an individual level. If mung beans are the answer, I shudder to think what the question is.

I whipped up a nice batch of scones last night.

[Pwalo]

Don't know what you're worried about Mr H. It's election time soon, and Allen Clark need to drum up a bit of support and appear to be providing a solution to another no proven problem.

I think the biggest worry is that we'll end up with another piece of ill thought out legislation, or regulation, that will provide endless hours of parliamentary and public debate, and ultimately do bugger all.

I also find it funny that we are getting fatter and living longer. It's also strange that we rely on the BMI which I understand was developed shortly after WW2 (not a time that was well known for it's plentitude).

I'm not too sure that this obsession about what you eat is exactly healthy. Man (oops humankind) has always eaten whatever was around, be it animal or plant. Come on you know it's the green thing to do.

[jazbug5]

Can someone please explain why as a parent of a ADHD child, one would think it's a good ideato give your little darling an ENERGY drink?!?!? GAH! Every week we see these kids arrive (8-10 year olds mind - not teenagers) and the utter crap that their parents let them put in their growing bodies really makes me :slap:

Tell me about it. Just spent a year working in a school, and saw the same thing time and time again. In my other 'job', helping in a martial arts school with the kids, we ran a summer school this year. The most disruptive kid (a clear 'ADHD' case) came along every day with nothing but packages of sugar and cheese strings and a can of coke or energy drink.
You can imagine the results...

At-home Mums are becoming fewer and further between, the art of acquiring and preparing food is becoming lost... Nobody has the time to faff around in "whole foods" shops or growing their own produce to then spend an age cooking dinner. "Fast" and processed foods fill a need and are not necessarily evel ...

Hmm. And yet, my mother was not a 'stay at home mum'- and she cooked, just as I do after a full day. It isn't difficult. There are lots of quick and easy things to do, it doesn't have to be a quiche or something poncy.. meh.

[007XX]

. The most disruptive kid (a clear 'ADHD' case) came along every day with nothing but packages of sugar and cheese strings and a can of coke or energy drink.
You can imagine the results...

Oh yeah...my son used to complain when younger about how he never was allowed to get the "school lunch order", aka: pies, chips or pizza!!!!
Now, he is proud to have fresh fruits, a yoghurt, muesli bar and a homemade sandwich...yes, it is more time consuming, but it's just a question of being more organised, and the benefits are worth so much...

Hmm. And yet, my mother was not a 'stay at home mum'- and she cooked, just as I do after a full day. It isn't difficult. There are lots of quick and easy things to do, it doesn't have to be a quiche or something poncy.. meh.

I got a great recipe for a quiche that honnestly will not take any longer than 15 mins max to prepare...

[Ocean1]

I got a great recipe for a quiche that honnestly will not take any longer than 15 mins max to prepare...

You wouldn't be so callous as to feed it to the boy though would you...?

[Mr Merde]

got a great recipe for a quiche that honnestly will not take any longer than 15 mins max to prepare...

Make me jealous why dont you.

I havent been able to eat eggs for about 15 years now.

Whole eggs in any form ie fried, boiled, poached, quiche etc make me violently ill.

Can manage cakes etc as the ammount of egg is very little.

Before becoming allergic to them I loved the items

[007XX]

You wouldn't be so callous as to feed it to the boy though would you...?

I haven't got calluses! Whatever might you mean Dearest???

Make me jealous why dont you.

I havent been able to eat eggs for about 15 years now.

Whole eggs in any form ie fried, boiled, poached, quiche etc make me violently ill.

Can manage cakes etc as the ammount of egg is very little.

Before becoming allergic to them I loved the items

I know the feeling...as a child, I was allergic to antibiotics, eggs, chocolate, dustmites and other interesting things...

I heard there is a product that can replace eggs...ad very successfully so! Ever lookes at your options on this?

[Ocean1]

I haven't got calluses! Whatever might you mean Dearest???

Real men don't eat it m'dear, it's the law.

You've got to add pastry and bacon and call it pie.