Police shoot and kill another person

[Roadrash]

The Taser's trial period is over, Police will only get it back if it's approved, Kinda ironic that when the Police had it, people said Police didn't need it, now it's gone,
people are asking, why didn't they use it ??

[Hoon]

Yep another argument for Tazers. Could've saved the life of a crazy here. But I don't think they're around anymore. Weren't the Tazers just a trial and have all been handed back now?? (edit...duhh too slow)

I have no problem with the cops decision as long as he followed procedure. correct ROE's and escalation of force.

In real life you don't shoot to wound. If you decide that a situation requires the lethal use of force then then you apply lethal use of force. You don't fire one round and hope thats enough - you fire enough to incapacitate the target. If he lives, lucky him. If he doesn't, tough. There is no "shoot to wound" policy, it might work and save a loonies life sometimes but other times it won't and you'll end up with a dead cop instead.

The question is when do you decide that the use of lethal force is necessary? This is where the training comes in. Every precaution is taken to give the offender every opportunity to back down. Lethal force is the last resort and if it gets that far then you can be pretty sure that all the challenges, warnings and graduated responses were given prior to this (assuming procedures were followed).

[tri boy]

Hope the coppa's involved get as much support for their actions, as the recently deceased and his family get.
I'm pretty sure NO coppa in NZ takes these kind of actions lightly.
Protecting and Serving the community has to be one of the most thankless careers there is.

[Finn]

Fuck, just in from our leftist press...

The 37-year-old victim, resident in Christchurch but from the North Island, died despite efforts to resuscitate him after the shooting in the suburb of Avonside.

Victim? Okay, now I'm getting angry. I've just emailed the Hurald and asked them to remove that word. If you feel the same, do so yourself.

[Paul in NZ]

Anyone crazy enough NOT to drop his hammer when faced with armed Police is too dumb or far gone to be overly worried about. Sure - lets have an investigation - it's the right thing to do as there should always be an investigation over a death or even discharge of a firearm but I have NO issues with the outcome at this stage...

Fuck me - a gang can randomly shoot a toddler and its more acceptable than the Police taking out a bit of dog tucker like this clown...

[Clockwork]

Bollox !!

It appears I'm not allowed to express an opinion in regard to this matter because I haven't been trained in the use of firearms and my only source for information is our lying, irresponsible, sensationalist media.

Bloody convenient for the Authorities that, isn't it?

[arsnik]

If a cop has his/her gun out, its time to back up, quickly. They aren\'t marksmen, there trained to shoot at the mass to kill.

+ 1 TO THE COPS

If only tariana turia would walk around with a hammer.

[Finn]

If only tariana turia would walk around with a hammer.

Her pen is more dangerous.

[Usarka]

Fuck, just in from our leftist press...

The 37-year-old victim, resident in Christchurch but from the North Island, died despite efforts to resuscitate him after the shooting in the suburb of Avonside.

Victim? Okay, now I'm getting angry. I've just emailed the Hurald and asked them to remove that word. If you feel the same, do so yourself.

Bahaha, done. a pint says they don't change it, it won't suit their agenda.

"Until it's disproven, how about not painting him out to be a victim of anything but his own stupidity."

[tri boy]

Victim? Okay, now I'm getting angry. I've just emailed the Hurald and asked them to remove that word. If you feel the same, do so yourself.

In a way he was a victim......of his own stupidity.(I agree with you though. Looks like the media is winding up for a good cop lynching session).

[Tank]

It all comes down to how threatened the officer was feeling. The latest bits in the Herald say he feared for his safety.

If thats the case you assume that the guy with the hammer was doing something to cause concern for his well being - like approaching in a menacing manner.

Good job I say - Shoot fuckers like this each and every time. Too many coppers get stabbed, hit, bitten all the time and its accepted.

The officer only has so many options available to them, talking obviously wasnt working, and taking if off him by hand was probally a great way to get a hammer in the head - so whats the cop to do - walk away and leave him to kill someone?

People need to learn that they need to obey instructions when given in a situation like that. Any NORMAL person when having a gun pointed at them would do as they are told - this guy obviously wasn't normal and needed stopping. Id rather it was him killed than his wife, kid, or the copper.

[scumdog]

I hope not............I mean if the guy had a hammer, surely the Police don't have to resort to guns to stop guys like this.

What about the riot gear with shields?

Yeah, like we all have THAT in our hip pockets ready for instant deployment!!

And the four shot comment you made earlier? - you are guessing they ALL hit the idiot eh?


Wait and see, wait and see...

[Tank]

- you are guessing they ALL hit the idiot eh?

Here is hoping. If you are going to commit to shooting someone - commit BIG

[scumdog]

I was just making an observation rather than a judgement and did say the full story will reveal.

I have done weapons training (not guns) and serve my community but not in the Police..............just think that a man with a hammer v guns is a bit much................

Years ago I was playing pool in a pub with some friends. It was not our local so a local didn't like us playing so decided to attack me without any prior contact......he ended up in hospital...I did Aikido and was cornered and gave up after I realised what I could do.......but what if I had got a gun and shot him..............I would get prosecuted..............not much difference surely.

Aw c'mon, be thinking - what would have happened if an armed cop got into a grapple with a retard-waste-of-tax-payers-money and lost - and said retard now had a pistol with 17 bullets.


Shoot more of the idiots I say - then the bleeding-heart soft-cock public will be BEGGING for tazers to be introduced all round to front line cops.

[Skyryder]

Well if the investigation is anything like the Rickards one we'll all be dead and gone before any colclusion as to the rights and wrongs of this is made public.

The whole thing sounds a bit gung ho. Four shots and as to date no mention of a life threatening situation, but hey I still got an open mind on this.

Skyryder