Why do you hate BMW 650s?

**_Shrek_** · 26th September 2007, 19:07

Originally Posted by ZReX12

Why do people hate F650's?
Because they are boring boring bikes, do everything OK but nothing that makes ya smile and want to ride it. Good for getting to point b or c, but ridings more about fun and getting there than just the destination, otherwise you'd take the train to work (the GS train).
Get a KTM they have the sex appeal BMW's can never have.

you must be a

coz you dont know

about them

**ZReX12** · 26th September 2007, 19:24

Originally Posted by Shrek lone rider

you must be a

coz you dont know

about them

Mate
I had one for 2 years, put 25k on it, got bored gotta KTM.
How much more do I need to know about em?

**_Shrek_** · 26th September 2007, 21:20

Originally Posted by ZReX12

Mate
I had one for 2 years, put 25k on it, got bored gotta KTM.
How much more do I need to know about em?

i've had mine 2 years next month & done 72.5k of the 112.5k it's done & the only fault i can find is the weight when you're up in the high country or on the river bed & park it at a funny angle

like i already said!!!

**pete376403** · 26th September 2007, 21:21

KLR650!!!! - 07 or earlier if dirt riding has higher priority than road. 08 if you do more road than dirt - although each is more than capable on either terrain. And the price can't be beat - 08s are $9590 new, 07s can still be found new for about a grand less

**Oscar** · 26th September 2007, 23:31

Simply put, my 650GSD was:
Expensive,
Over-hyped,
Under engineered, and ultimately -
Dissapointing.

I'm over it now, though - I have a KTM640LCe...

**Transalper** · 27th September 2007, 00:14

Originally Posted by Oscar

Simply put, my 650GSD was:
Expensive,
Over-hyped,
Under engineered, and ultimately -
Dissapointing.

I'm over it now, though - I have a...

That about sums my feelings about my 2000 F650GS when I sold it. I liked it in the beginning but it didn't take long for that buzz to wear off. There are some things that I liked in a Dakar over a GS having now ridden both (21inch front wheel feel in the shingle being the main thing) but still nothing to ever make me consider going back to a F650 of any sort. Standing on them was a bit of a mission for me, needed bowed legs to stand or to start moving foot pegs back and handle bars foward or something.
I moved up to the Transalp which I liked better on road and off road and with fond memorys will miss at times. One day I may get another one.
Now I ride a DR650 and enjoy rides even more on and especially off the sealed road.

If you really want a F650 then get one, it's the only way to stop wondering what they'd be like for you.

**Alpha Solo** · 27th September 2007, 09:17

I love my GS 650 as a road machine, it's perfectly suited for touring the great south island roads, especially gravel but it's a bit of a handfull for me off road (in the mud).

Fitted a Staintune exhaust which sorted out the lack of low down guts, a few other mods planned.

You can get wider footrests etc from Touratech.

**Zukin** · 27th September 2007, 09:47

I have owned mine for about 6 months now I guess, and have done about 15000km, and I still enjoy riding it

The main reason I got mine was so that I can take the wife on the back with our camping gear, no problems in that respect with the 650

and to take on a few more road rides as well as the gravel adventure rides we do.

It is great on the road, but like most of the others have already said no good for off road (I mean anything much worse than a rough gravel road)
I was under no illusions what so ever about its off road capabilities, that is why I have the DRZ

Still I am waiting to see the 690 Adventure when its released

Then I might consider all options and what suits me best at that time

Cheers Scott

**Garry.W** · 27th September 2007, 12:50

Originally Posted by Oscar

Simply put, my 650GSD was:
Expensive,
Over-hyped,
Under engineered, and ultimately -
Dissapointing.

I'm over it now, though - I have a KTM640LCe...

Very reserved of you Oscar. Simply put my 650GSPD was:
affordable;
capable;
well made; and
quite a lot of fun while I had it.

I'm over it now though - for the obvious reason

See you

**Oscar** · 27th September 2007, 14:54

Originally Posted by Garry.W

Very reserved of you Oscar. Simply put my 650GSPD was:
affordable;
capable;
well made; and
quite a lot of fun while I had it.

I'm over it now though - for the obvious reason

See you

Reserved, cool calm and collected are some of my middle names...

My problem with the GS is I thought it would do "proper" off-road stuff (albeit slowly). It was frustrating to realise that a couple of engineering fuck-ups limited it so badly.