Police shoot and kill another person

**Finn** · 28th September 2007, 07:51

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Was he a builder then?

A smiley spells a thousand words...

Or just two in this case.

**Paul in NZ** · 28th September 2007, 07:51

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Well the truth has come to light http://stuff.co.nz/4217339a10.html

I look at that picture, shudder and thank my lucky stars i was born into the family I was - humble, working class but relatively normal..... Far out... Theres a shooting and dad lets his 5year old rush up to a police officer... Ignore that the kid should have been in bed..... etc etc... (sigh - we are doomed)

**Usarka** · 28th September 2007, 08:05

The cops should not have guns or even tasers. Come on, these guys are dealing with mature adults. You can't beat violence with violence. there are ways the cops can deal with this; first they need to talk to the person and make them understand why what they are doing is wrong. if the person still doesnt listen they then need some time alone to reflect on their behaviour (eg in the police car or cell). violence is unnaceptable in our society, even as a form of discipline. Guns and tasers is lazy policing.

**sAsLEX** · 28th September 2007, 08:14

Originally Posted by Usarka

The cops should not have guns or even tasers. Come on, these guys are dealing with mature adults. You can't beat violence with violence. there are ways the cops can deal with this; first they need to talk to the person and make them understand why what they are doing is wrong. if the person still doesnt listen they then need some time alone to reflect on their behaviour (eg in the police car or cell). violence is unnaceptable in our society, even as a form of discipline. Guns and tasers is lazy policing.

I seriously hope you missed the pt at the bottom of that.

They are not in the vast majority of cases dealing with anything that approaches mature yet alone adult in allot of cases. Have you dealt with any of the upcoming generation of bloods and crips that think it is alright to stick the popo or someone wearing the wrong colour?

Go back to your fantasy land and play with the Care Bears.

**pritch** · 28th September 2007, 08:45

Originally Posted by caesius

But the pussy's don't even shoot for the head!

I have no idea what Police training is, other than inadequate, (and I have watched them train).

Military training is to aim at the centre of mass which, for the unititiated, means the middle of the biggest bit you can see. Generally that will not be the head.

Shooting things out of the hand with a pistol (or Clint Eastwood's shooting oranges out of a tree ) are pure fantasy.

**u4ea** · 28th September 2007, 08:53

Originally Posted by Usarka

The cops should not have guns or even tasers. Come on, these guys are dealing with mature adults. You can't beat violence with violence. there are ways the cops can deal with this; first they need to talk to the person and make them understand why what they are doing is wrong. if the person still doesnt listen they then need some time alone to reflect on their behaviour (eg in the police car or cell). violence is unnaceptable in our society, even as a form of discipline. Guns and tasers is lazy policing.

watched closeup last night and the witness Chris Young said as he was waiting for pizza the "victim" asked to get in his car!Chris didnt like his aggressive attitude and (in his words)told him to bugger off.Then drove around the block.When he came back he saw the 'victim' running toward the cop with hammer raised above his head and the cop shot him at about a metre as the stuff site says.The witness Chris was not a freind or neighbour and (although had hair oin his eyes,)seemed quite articulate in his statement.I suspect the 'victim' was on more than party pills.Sounds like pee to me.It seems with what ever the 'victim' had in his system maybe the tazer would have killed him too.More like a suicide now as he chose to digest those pills!He played with fire and got burned.The investigation will be a goody.Cant wait for the ortopsy results to come out and see what 'party pills' turn normal people into insane lunatics.(I dont like party pills ,are they like pee after 4 days use?????)My opinion only.

**Hitcher** · 28th September 2007, 08:59

Originally Posted by u4ea

Sounds like pee to me.

I drank my own for a week in preparation for Talk Like A Pirate Day. It was a hard habit to break.

**u4ea** · 28th September 2007, 09:04

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I drank my own for a week in preparation for Talk Like A Pirate Day. It was a hard habit to break.

eeewww...

.....my problemm is

.. trying to live my dream is an adiction

**Finn** · 28th September 2007, 09:09

Originally Posted by Usarka

The cops should not have guns or even tasers. Come on, these guys are dealing with mature adults. You can't beat violence with violence. there are ways the cops can deal with this; first they need to talk to the person and make them understand why what they are doing is wrong. if the person still doesnt listen they then need some time alone to reflect on their behaviour (eg in the police car or cell). violence is unnaceptable in our society, even as a form of discipline. Guns and tasers is lazy policing.

What about "tea and biscuits". Perhaps a bath would do the trick as well. My Grandmother always used to say that a nice hot bath would take away all your troubles.

**Usarka** · 28th September 2007, 09:17

Splendid! thermos flasks should become the standard issue law enforcement tool.

**sAsLEX** · 28th September 2007, 09:20

Originally Posted by Finn

What about "tea and biscuits"?

To be honest it sounds oh so colonial and English, we wouldn't want to add fuel to a fire by being racially insensitive to past injustices.

Therefore I suggest some of the following:

Kava
Taro
Double Brown
Cigarettes
Meths
P......

**Goblin** · 28th September 2007, 09:44

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I love the double-standards on this site at times.

According to the weight of opinion around here it's OK for some chef on a bus to bury a 25cm knife to the hilt into somebody he thought was threatening him; but it's not OK for a cop in the same city to shoot some dude who wants to do him harm with a hammer?

Perhaps rednecks don't like the Police dispensing vigilante justice for them?

I think you'll find the majority of people here think the cop did the right thing in shooting the meathead. I just hate the double standard that says if Joe Public defends himself he'll do prison time but a cop will go through PCA, have counseling and professional help to get over it.

**Hitcher** · 28th September 2007, 09:52

Cops are paid to be in dangerous situations to take care of the rest of us who lack the wherewithall to deal with deranged and determined drongoes. I don't think that they're paid enough. And I agree with the Constable quoted in this morning's papers that they're definitely not paid enough to warrant going home in a box.

**Coldrider** · 28th September 2007, 09:54

Why do policemen get themselves in a position where they are threatened, then have to use lethal force to defend themselves.
How close do you need to get to a P head with a hammer, golf club etc. in the first instance.
I do not like the thought of being de-sensitised by the police or media to killings.
It is a slippery slope to where history has been before.
Everyone who becomes invloved in a saga such as this becomes a loser.