Police shoot and kill another person

[Grahameeboy]

you've been watching too much hong kong fooey.

some people get taught to appear like a noob when in a confrontation - no point giving away the element of surprise.

Its the feet that do the work

[Grahameeboy]

I will. Counting money is always fun.

I am so glad I do not have your job..............sounds too tough to me

[scumdog]

Far out. Anything up to 12 metres?
You old buggers shouldn't be allowed to carry a firearm if you are going to have to put your zimmer frame down to draw!
2-3 metres would be the expected. What distance do you train at nowadays? Still 2-3 metres?

We are happy with the outcome of the shooting. Dickhead is toast/gene pool improved.

The winner is the gubbinment.
1: More reasons to ban party pills.
2: More reason to override the tazer "review period" and issue them to all.

Hmm, action beats reaction.

A person 10 metres or so away who rushes at you will very likely be onto you before you can draw and take proper aim.
And given that it (obviously) might take more than one shot to incapacitate that person then if they had a weapon you could well be injured/dead as a result of the weapon being used on you.

Using a Glock is a two-handed proposition - so if you had pepper-spray in one hand your draw would be even slower.

If you had the pistol in both hands, ready to raise then you would have a good chance of dropping the sucker by the time he takes two steps - and that's the way I operate.

[Usarka]

Its the feet that do the work

yeah true you got me its a well known fact that people proficient in hand to hand combat cannot stand like a normal person to confuse their enemy.

and by the time your average grunt copper notices any fancy footwork they'll have a hammer through their scone.

a-cha-cha-chaa

[scumdog]

yeah true you got me its a well known fact that people proficient in hand to hand combat cannot stand like a normal person to confuse their enemy.

and by the time your average grunt copper notices any fancy footwork they'll have a hammer through their scone.

a-cha-cha-chaa

I think the sight of the exposed genitalia in that picture is the biggest threat...

[Grahameeboy]

yeah true you got me its a well known fact that people proficient in hand to hand combat cannot stand like a normal person to confuse their enemy.

and by the time your average grunt copper notices any fancy footwork they'll have a hammer through their scone.

a-cha-cha-chaa

I was talking about the defender's feet.....a-cha-cha-chaa.....fooey....pooey

[Usarka]

I was talking about the defender's feet.....a-cha-cha-chaa.....fooey....pooey

rofl - sorry you've lost me mate. the cops should be able to deal with hammer weilding maniacs by using martial arts or some other form of unarmed combat training. they should be able to identify when someone is an expert fighter. in the event that the assailants skill level is greater than the cop anticipated the cop should run away.

Presumably the cops then wait for backup while the offender continues to smash what and whomever.

"attention this is the police, put down the hammer or we will run away!"

bahahahahahaha

[caesius]

So why was the tazor not used in this case?

[I Smell Bacon]

So why was the tazor not used in this case?

Jeez mate, because they don't have the f'n things.

[Hitcher]

So why was the tazor not used in this case?

Please try and keep up. Tazers were used as a trial by NZ Police in some Districts and were withdrawn from service after the trial ended. Christchurch Police District was never part of the Tazer trial.

And this "what if" stuff is specious nonsense. If the cop had called in sick the shooting wouldn't have happened either. A crazed idiot weilding a hammer continued to run at an armed Constable despite being warned to stop. He was shot. Fatally. If I had been on the same side of the Glock as the Constable I would probably have done the same thing. Most of you would have. Get over it.

[I Smell Bacon]

I know what you are saying, just making a point....all I can say is that the hammer guy would take just 1 move to take out and immobiles and if you really wanted to you could dislocate his shoulder with just a nudge and at no risk to cop.

You would know if the hammer head was a mad kung foo guy.....

Regardless of how easy or hard it might be with the right training it would be a foolish action on the part of the cop to take on a hammer wielding maniac hand to hand when the cop has other more effective tactical options available.

Too many of the NZ public want the cops to protect them but won't face up to the ugly reality of what that actually involves in cases like this.

[Grahameeboy]

Regardless of how easy or hard it might be with the right training it would be a foolish action on the part of the cop to take on a hammer wielding maniac hand to hand when the cop has other more effective tactical options available.

Too many of the NZ public want the cops to protect them but won't face up to the ugly reality of what that actually involves in cases like this.

I guess I just do not 100% agree............never been a cop so am not in a prime position but with the right training I do not consider that the cop would be at risk.

I mean what would happen if this maniac has managed to get to cop and grab his gun........what defence would the cop have then.............

Just dont agree with shooting someone with a hammer who had just smashed up cars....different story if the attacker had a sword, then I would agree that shooting (not to kill) would be only option

[scumdog]

Regardless of how easy or hard it might be with the right training it would be a foolish action on the part of the cop to take on a hammer wielding maniac hand to hand when the cop has other more effective tactical options available.

Too many of the NZ public want the cops to protect them but won't face up to the ugly reality of what that actually involves in cases like this.

Wot 'e sed.

Too many want Police to 'do this that way' and 'do that' and 'they shoulda done" etc etc ad nauseum ad infinitum.

But they don't actually want to do it themselves, oh no, that's too dangerous/nasty/icky.

[Grahameeboy]

Please try and keep up. Tazers were used as a trial by NZ Police in some Districts and were withdrawn from service after the trial ended. Christchurch Police District was never part of the Tazer trial.

And this "what if" stuff is specious nonsense. If the cop had called in sick the shooting wouldn't have happened either. A crazed idiot weilding a hammer continued to run at an armed Constable despite being warned to stop. He was shot. Fatally. If I had been on the same side of the Glock as the Constable I would probably have done the same thing. Most of you would have. Get over it.

Am I allowed to say that I would not have shot him................

[scumdog]

Just dont agree with shooting someone with a hammer who had just smashed up cars....different story if the attacker had a sword, then I would agree that shooting (not to kill) would be only option

In case you missed the point GB:

HE WAS NOT SHOT 'BECAUSE HE HAD JUST SMASHED UP CARS".