Police shoot and kill another person

[Mom]

go back 5 hours and read my posts; i don't care to repeat myself for the lazy

Shit mate not many of us have the time to re-read your posts from 5 hours ago...you are such a prolific poster today (I gave up counting at 70 today alone) after such a heavenly break from your vitriole!

Your opinion of how things should be here makes me question your sanity, seriously I am not joking. If you really feel like this why not go back to your personal Nirvana. This poor bastard was faced (alledgedly, for Hitcher) with an out of control person with a raised hammer, he was trained in the use of fire arms, he used his training (alledgedly) to attempt to stop this bloke and yet was reduced to the base line..........HIM or ME!!!!!!! Personally I think he made the right choice.

Rednecks of the forum unite!

[mstriumph]

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There, I have got some of that empathy stuff.

but i'll bet you got it discount ........

[scumdog]

Rednecks of the forum unite!

Oooh-yeah!!!!!

[peasea]

Monday i got myself a ticket for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign...inwardly the rage built within me and i prayed to the gods for a hammer so i to could run at a policeman with murder on my mind but then reminding myself of the consequences of such actions i replayed my actions realised i didnt stop and accepted the ticket from the i might add rather good looking policewoman.

Was it Petunia?

[peasea]

Oooh-yeah!!!!!

You have to admit; it's been fun. Took everyone's attention from the 111kph shite. Momentarily.

[Dilligaf]

I find it interesting that when someone (anyone) takes a police officer to task (or takes the piss) on kb, be it personally or even hypothetically, all the police officers in creation get so defensive. Why is that? Are nerves being struck? Is there any chance, albeit the slimmest imaginable chance, that some (even one or two) things that III has posted have a gossamer-thin thread of truth to them?

Not jumping on the wagon here guys and gals, just tipping my head sideways and going...hmmmmm.

Whenever someone takes a shot (however cheap) at the police there are guns appearing from the woodwork and they're all blazing. Why so sensitive? There's heat in the kitchen and there always will be, it goes with the territory and while I'm sure police officers get tired of it (like HD owners get tired of sb riders mouthing off) it's just part of the deal isn't it? Police officers take on a job with their eyes wide open and then moan about the conditions.

I think because a) they are facing a lot of flack lately from Rickards onwards. Not all of them are pack rapists but have to put up with slurs from every idiot they meet who thinks they are a comedian.
b) they took on the job perhaps 10 years ago - tell me that society hasn't changed significantly in that time.
c) reckon it would be so for any other profession that got constantly slammed on kb.

I am not a cop - I used to be a teacher. I will not go back teaching because of the same reason I don't envy the police their jobs. A distinct lack of respect for any other person in society is the way NZ has become.
And because I have never had a run in with the police, nor a speeding ticket, I have no grudge to bear them. I respect the job that they do and am grateful when they take out another loser in society who given the chance may decide to take a hammer to a loved one of mine. Personally I am getting absolutely fed up with the fact that noone ever has to take responsibility for their actions anymore. What a twisted arse about society we have become where blame can always be laid somewhere other than the idiots among us.
Finn, I have apparently given you too much bling lately - you crack me up mate.

[pritch]

I asked the coppers to identify themselves but none have: go figure

The ones I'm aware of actually do exactly that.
Although that isn't to say there are no others.

There's none so bind as those who will not see...

[Skyryder]

I find it interesting that when someone (anyone) takes a police officer to task (or takes the piss) on kb, be it personally or even hypothetically, all the police officers in creation get so defensive. Why is that? Are nerves being struck? Is there any chance, albeit the slimmest imaginable chance, that some (even one or two) things that III has posted have a gossamer-thin thread of truth to them?

Not jumping on the wagon here guys and gals, just tipping my head sideways and going...hmmmmm.

Whenever someone takes a shot (however cheap) at the police there are guns appearing from the woodwork and they're all blazing. Why so sensitive? There's heat in the kitchen and there always will be, it goes with the territory and while I'm sure police officers get tired of it (like HD owners get tired of sb riders mouthing off) it's just part of the deal isn't it? Police officers take on a job with their eyes wide open and then moan about the conditions.

I think because a) they are facing a lot of flack lately from Rickards onwards. Not all of them are pack rapists but have to put up with slurs from every idiot they meet who thinks they are a comedian.
b) they took on the job perhaps 10 years ago - tell me that society hasn't changed significantly in that time.
c) reckon it would be so for any other profession that got constantly slammed on kb.

I am not a cop - I used to be a teacher. I will not go back teaching because of the same reason I don't envy the police their jobs. A distinct lack of respect for any other person in society is the way NZ has become.
And because I have never had a run in with the police, nor a speeding ticket, I have no grudge to bear them. I respect the job that they do and am grateful when they take out another loser in society who given the chance may decide to take a hammer to a loved one of mine. Personally I am getting absolutely fed up with the fact that noone ever has to take responsibility for their actions anymore. What a twisted arse about society we have become where blame can always be laid somewhere other than the idiots among us.
Finn, I have apparently given you too much bling lately - you crack me up mate.

Most of the sentiments that you express have been conveyed elsewhere but in essensence its a camarediee thing. Bit like us bikers most will go in bat even if the guy is in the wrong.

The interesting thin about this thread is that most express the use of tazors. I come from a different position. I would sooner see the status quo where a cop who belives that his life is in danger ect has the use of a firearm to deal with that threat than issue tazors that will be used against unarmed people.

I think this is the issue. Not one of a tasor against a knife, hammer or for that matter a firearm, ect weilding indavidual. If it came to choices I wonder what the cops would prefer, the real thing or a tazor against a shotgun. That's an extreem position I know but them's the choices. Hell I'd even up the calibre.

Skyryder

[Edbear]

And because I have never had a run in with the police,

That's funny, neither have I. I don't consider myself likely to be shot, tazered or batonned by a Policeman either. Wonder why that is?

[SPman]

Alt Tv/Fleet FM Breakfast News Comment
'Don't name shooter cop'
The Police Association has appealed for the media not to name the officer who fatally shot a man in Christchurch, after details were revealed about his history in the force. Newspapers said yesterday the officer who shot Stephen Bellingham had previously shot and injured another person and has also successfully defended charges of assaulting prisoners. He has served on the frontline for more than 30 years. So this cop who shot Stephen Bellingham has already been up for shooting someone and has had allegations of beating prisoners in the back of prison vans and has had two accusations of use of unnecessary force, all of which has been ‘investigated’ by the none transperant secret cops investigating cops system we have at the moment. Hmmm – and we are told to shut up, not ask questions and trust the cops to investigate it again.

apparently........

[peasea]

The ones I'm aware of actually do exactly that.
Although that isn't to say there are no others.

There's none so bind as those who will not see...

Bad grammar mate, "there ARE none so blind" etc

[98tls]

Bad grammar mate, "there ARE none so blind" etc

i like his version mate.......makes you think hand-cuffs and other kinky shit.

[peasea]

I think because a) they are facing a lot of flack lately from Rickards onwards. Not all of them are pack rapists but have to put up with slurs from every idiot they meet who thinks they are a comedian.
b) they took on the job perhaps 10 years ago - tell me that society hasn't changed significantly in that time.
c) reckon it would be so for any other profession that got constantly slammed on kb.

I am not a cop - I used to be a teacher. I will not go back teaching because of the same reason I don't envy the police their jobs. A distinct lack of respect for any other person in society is the way NZ has become.
And because I have never had a run in with the police, nor a speeding ticket, I have no grudge to bear them. I respect the job that they do and am grateful when they take out another loser in society who given the chance may decide to take a hammer to a loved one of mine. Personally I am getting absolutely fed up with the fact that noone ever has to take responsibility for their actions anymore. What a twisted arse about society we have become where blame can always be laid somewhere other than the idiots among us.
Finn, I have apparently given you too much bling lately - you crack me up mate.

Responsibilty for their actions?
Oh yeah. That says a whole bunch in so few words. Hey, I might have an attitude on bad hair days but seriously? I don't go running around with raised hammers, swinging golf clubs and running my car into groups of party-goers. When it comes to my mouth (postings etc) you can call me all the names under the sun that you can think of, but my life (and that of my family) is above board. That's why I don't get turned over every weekend, have shootouts for Sunday afternoon tea and blow my family up with botched-up P labs.

I think, in all seriousness, I am responsible for my actions and while I'm constantly taking the piss out of everything that moves or doesn't move, I've instilled in my offspring a true sense of responsibility.

Again Dg, you're right, some (personal) responsibility needs to come to the fore. I'm on your side with that comment.

[peasea]

i like his version mate.......makes you think hand-cuffs and other kinky shit.

Pink, fluffy cuffs, hmmmm

[crshbndct]

its funny how in 26 years of life, i have never once been arrested for anything, not even charged, and have had tickets for parking but only 3 for speeding.

possibly there should be ads on tv similiar to the intersection ones that go something like: "life bad calls can be deadly"
and have a guy sitting at home trying to decide whether pick up either a weapon and attempt to brain someone, or a remote control and watch tv a bit.
he decides to brain someone and a dozen cops empty their magazines into him.

something like that.