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[Swoop]

How many hours training does the average police officer have before being allowed to carry a firearm?

SD you yourself have said on this board that you get only a couple of days a year.

This officer should be hauled over the rack for reckless endangerment. He could have easily put a round through someones home and killed an innocent. He should never be allowed to carry agian until he passes a much more stringent vetting.

Agreed Mr Merde.
The police have a very brief initial training period and they are deemed "competent". Some have never had any involvement in firearms previous to this.

Interesting that they require a driving licence to operate a police vehicle, yet they do not require a firearms licence...

A member of the public will gain a licence to own a firearm and then continue to learn and use the firearm/s. This is because they have an interest.
A couple of days a year is enough to "blow a bit of the rust out" refreshing some of the skills. This is not a real advancement of the officers skills.

[Sollyboy]

I think the cop that fired those 12 shots should be fired and prosocuted , what a wanker , he cant shoot and makes poor judgement under preasure

[Finn]

I'm actually more concerned about the vast increase in violent crime. The country is going bonkers.

Come the revolution, I'm ready. Are you?

[duckonin]

Dischargeing firearms in a residential area is a criminal offence,BUT THE POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO DO IT, SO IS SMOKING DOPE DRIVING FAST CARS AND BEING BULLIES, AND BUGGAR ME THEY GET PAID TO DO IT.. where the hell did those bullets that missed their targate end up? it's a wonder a nieghbour wasn't shot instead whilst shooting at the MUTT, but you would expect the cops to miss a dog, as it takes them up to 4 shots to shoot a man at point blank range...

[Mr Merde]

Agreed Mr Merde.
The police have a very brief initial training period and they are deemed "competent". Some have never had any involvement in firearms previous to this.

Interesting that they require a driving licence to operate a police vehicle, yet they do not require a firearms licence...

A member of the public will gain a licence to own a firearm and then continue to learn and use the firearm/s. This is because they have an interest.
A couple of days a year is enough to "blow a bit of the rust out" refreshing some of the skills. This is not a real advancement of the officers skills.

The crux of my arguement.

Training is critical.

Would you give control of a F1 car to someone who has just passed their learners licence?

I doubt it.

Then why allow people access to items that can be very lethal with only what can be considered very basic familiarisation with no real follow up training.

I know this is not the fault of the front line cop. Resources are limited and must be prioritised but with something that is potentially leathal there should be no skimping.

If we have to arm our police then please make sure that they are proficient enough to hit a target. In the US an officer has to pass a firearms course and regularly pass a range qualification.


Merde

[Swoop]

The Tux of my arguement.

Quite apt in this case.

[Patrick]

Also, the rock that was thrown into the house. Is that a new "cost saving" measure so we do not need to waste money on those "old fashioned" stun-grenades?
(Hope it was an authorised piece of operational hardware, trialled, tested, approved and signed off for operational use, with all paper trails available for scrutiny and audit.)

Nope, that was Wilful Damage. he will be charged and ordered to pay reparation...

Interesting that they require a driving licence to operate a police vehicle, yet they do not require a firearms licence...

Wrong. It is part of the course. We have to sit and pass two arms code tests with a 100% only pass. Joe Average sits one, and can get a few wrong.

it takes them up to 4 shots to shoot a man at point blank range...

Lets see how many shots it would take you, with the arse pucker factor kicking in when someone rushes you with a hammer wanting to smash your brains in... oh, hang on, you can do it with one on your playstation ay....

Training is critical.

I know this is not the fault of the front line cop. Resources are limited and must be prioritised but with something that is potentially leathal there should be no skimping.

If we have to arm our police then please make sure that they are proficient enough to hit a target. In the US an officer has to pass a firearms course and regularly pass a range qualification.


Merde

So true, a constant complaint from the front line. The training is enough to hit the target, anyone can do it with a little tuition. What they don't do enough of is the active shooter type scenario, when the arse pucker factor is actually put into effect.

[scumdog]

Lets see how many shots it would take you, with the arse pucker factor kicking in when someone rushes you with a hammer wanting to smash your brains in... oh, hang on, you can do it with one on your playstation ay....



So true, a constant complaint from the front line. The training is enough to hit the target, anyone can do it with a little tuition. What they don't do enough of is the active shooter type scenario, when the arse pucker factor is actually put into effect.

The KB world is fullof arm-chair marksmen and snipers.


Re 2nd comment - the Simunition sure as hell cranks up the arse-pucker factor when training eh! (and hurts if on top bare flesh)

[Patrick]

The KB world is fullof arm-chair marksmen and snipers.


Re 2nd comment - the Simunition sure as hell cranks up the arse-pucker factor when training eh! (and hurts if on top bare flesh)

Heh heh... not as bad as a real round tho, but yeah, it ups the ante a bit compared to the cardboard cutout...

I remember getting plugged right between the eyes at paintball once, in the old days when you wore safety glasses, not the full face things of nowadays... feck that hurt....

[Swoop]

Wrong. It is part of the course. We have to sit and pass two arms code tests with a 100% only pass. Joe Average sits one, and can get a few wrong.

So you are saying that you get issued a genuine NZ Firearms Licence then? Which is my point.
Not just a bit of paper, with Police letterhead, saying "Pass".

[Patrick]

So you are saying that you get issued a genuine NZ Firearms Licence then? Which is my point.
Not just a bit of paper, with Police letterhead, saying "Pass".

Pay the fees, just like everyone else, yep.

Otherwise, "just a bit of paper..."

[peasea]

I'm actually more concerned about the vast increase in violent crime. The country is going bonkers.

Come the revolution, I'm ready. Are you?

I'm in, do I get to fire a gun? I would have to think long and hard about where to start though, so many options.....

[pritch]

I'm in, do I get to fire a gun? I would have to think long and hard about where to start though, so many options.....

And so many distractions. I wouldn't mind a visit to the range but with All Black tests and Bathhurst, where to fit it in...

So much to do, so little time - Peter Sellers

[Skyryder]

So what are some of the locker jokes SD?

Here's one.

What advice did the gay cop give to the dog shooter??

'GET IN BEHIND."

Skyryder

I got plenty more.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

I got plenty more.

Skyryder

There were three drug dogs talking about their handlers.

The first dog had a Scotsman as his handler.

“My owner gives me a shot of whiskey evertime I bring down an offender.”

“Shit Jock that’s nothing” says the second dog. “My handler is from Columbia and gives me a shot of coke every time I find a stash.”

Not to be outdone the third dog from New Zealand ‘You guys are onto good thing,”says the third dog. My owner’s a Kiwi and gives me twelve shots of lead and misses.


Skyryder