Robert Taylor and idleidolidyll's political debating thread

[Mully]

Yep - its all out there for you - all you have to do is spend you TIME and EFFORT

But I don't wanna. Surely the gummint will give me some if I'm unwill, er I mean unable to work.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

What's happened to LenIIIn today? I was enjoying his utterly neutral stance on all things political..

[Mr Merde]

What's happened to LenIIIn today? I was enjoying his utterly neutral stance on all things political..

He informed us in one of his threads that he wouldnt be posting or very limited posting from this week on.

He is back to work, as the school holidays are over and he returns to teaching.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Yikes - a school teacher (watch what you say around your children, don't talk about the West...)

[Mr Merde]

Yikes - a school teacher (watch what you say around your children, don't talk about the West...)

Not really a school teacher.

He is a language teacher.

He is very proficient in the Mandrin dialect of Chinese, as well as what is considered semi literate in reading and writing the chatracters.

It was mentioned in one of the threads that he assists Chinese immigrants with their usage and understanding of the English language.

I've heard him speaking and the Chinese are always very supprised how well he does in their language.

Ask GIJoe.


Merde

[SPman]

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The system we have stinks but it beats most of the alternatives.

No no no - many would have us believe Helen & co are the most corrupt politicians in the world!...


I think too many people confuse corruption with arrogance. They are arrogant, yes, but not yet corrupt! In the corruption stakes, the current NZ government is very minor league! They deserve being booted out for that arrogance, but I reckon replacing it with National would lead to your actual corruption a damn sight quicker. Its a shame most people still don't understand MMP and tactical voting!
You're right in that the system we have beats most alternatives, but the system itself, doesn't stink, more, peoples inability to make best use of it.

[Mr Merde]

No no no - many would have us believe Helen & co are the most corrupt politicians in the world!...


I think too many people confuse corruption with arrogance. They are arrogant, yes, but not yet corrupt! In the corruption stakes, the current NZ government is very minor league! They deserve being booted out for that arrogance, but I reckon replacing it with National would lead to your actual corruption a damn sight quicker. Its a shame most people still don't understand MMP and tactical voting!
You're right in that the system we have beats most alternatives, but the system itself, doesn't stink, more, peoples inability to make best use of it.

Politicos being prosecuted by the police for corruption, politicos being sentenced to jail time for stealing from a childs charity, attempting to justify the use of taxpayers money by backdating legislation, ignoring traffic laws with the excuseI was working,.

Sounds corrupt to me, just the tip of the iceberg. What else havent we found out about.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Not really a school teacher.

He is a language teacher.
He is very proficient in the Mandrin dialect of Chinese, as well as what is considered semi literate in reading and writing the chatracters.

It was mentioned in one of the threads that he assists Chinese immigrants with their usage and understanding of the English language.

I've heard him speaking and the Chinese are always very supprised how well he does in their language.
Ask GIJoe.

Merde

Fair enough. He certainly sounds like quite an academic, although far removed from my own political ideal

[idleidolidyll]

Politicos being prosecuted by the police for corruption, politicos being sentenced to jail time for stealing from a childs charity, attempting to justify the use of taxpayers money by backdating legislation, ignoring traffic laws with the excuseI was working,.

Sounds corrupt to me, just the tip of the iceberg. What else havent we found out about.

2 in 250 years? what's the problem...............well that's what the cops are saying about their own anyway...........

[idleidolidyll]

Yikes - a school teacher (watch what you say around your children, don't talk about the West...)

actually, I have only been teaching English for a few months. I teach Mandarin speaking immigrants and also included in my lessons is a huge dose of Kiwi culture and not an insignificant amount of political discourse.

What I'm sure many will find hard to swallow given their rantings about me here, is that I was a very successful capital equipment salesman (loaders, rollers, excavators, cherry pickers, pavers etc), an international sales manager, a motorbike salesman and service manager and I've run my own business for years importing eco products to NZ since we were not making them ourselves.
Adding to that the fact that I've always been a working photographer and still shoot people and events for a number of clients and that I studied for my recent degree while working as a photographer and importer at the same time, and you might now have stopped wondering why I laugh at people who jump to conclusions and label socialists as lazy, unable to take responsible for themselves, bludgers etc etc.

You guys are a joke.

[idleidolidyll]

Importantly though, even as I post my political opinions here, I am a fan of Robert Taylors work as well as those others in our sport who provide us with their wonderful skills and who support up and coming racers in our sport.

Robert is an artist and a credit to motorcycling but that doesn't mean I have to subscribe to his political viewpoint. He's also a grown up (unlike some here) and it's clear he also understands that I too am welcome to my political opinions and should we meet, there would be no animosity I'm sure.

I too have done my part in the sport too both as a competitor and a national organiser/official.

Those who know me laugh with me at the nonsense posted in anger at me. It's water off a duck's back as far as I'm concerned, just a chance to air opinions and laugh at some of the amazing naivety shown on occasion.

[idleidolidyll]

Unlike Labour who seem content to let NZ business after NZ business close their doors and drift off-shore as they are at present....?

indeed that is a concern.

National however would accelerate that and sell us out to whoever greases their palms.

I vote for neither

[Robert Taylor]

actually, I have only been teaching English for a few months. I teach Mandarin speaking immigrants and also included in my lessons is a huge dose of Kiwi culture and not an insignificant amount of political discourse.

What I'm sure many will find hard to swallow given their rantings about me here, is that I was a very successful capital equipment salesman (loaders, rollers, excavators, cherry pickers, pavers etc), an international sales manager, a motorbike salesman and service manager and I've run my own business for years importing eco products to NZ since we were not making them ourselves.
Adding to that the fact that I've always been a working photographer and still shoot people and events for a number of clients and that I studied for my recent degree while working as a photographer and importer at the same time, and you might now have stopped wondering why I laugh at people who jump to conclusions and label socialists as lazy, unable to take responsible for themselves, bludgers etc etc.

You guys are a joke.

You know, the most infuriating thing about socialists is that they think they are so damn right. The slow and incessant indoctrination process over the decades has clearly been successful.

How about a subjective poll about who is the ''lesser of all the evils'' to form a Government if a general election was held tommorrow...

[idleidolidyll]

You know, the most infuriating thing about socialists is that they think they are so damn right. The slow and incessant indoctrination process over the decades has clearly been successful.

How about a subjective poll about who is the ''lesser of all the evils'' to form a Government if a general election was held tommorrow...

impossible; they're all evil

perhaps if we could cut and paste people in and out of the various parties we might be able to form a viable government. The problem however is this: anyone who WANTS to be in government is either far too idealistic or far to greedy and power mad.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

actually, I have only been teaching English for a few months. I teach Mandarin speaking immigrants and also included in my lessons is a huge dose of Kiwi culture and not an insignificant amount of political discourse.

What I'm sure many will find hard to swallow given their rantings about me here, is that I was a very successful capital equipment salesman (loaders, rollers, excavators, cherry pickers, pavers etc), an international sales manager, a motorbike salesman and service manager and I've run my own business for years importing eco products to NZ since we were not making them ourselves.
Adding to that the fact that I've always been a working photographer and still shoot people and events for a number of clients and that I studied for my recent degree while working as a photographer and importer at the same time, and you might now have stopped wondering why I laugh at people who jump to conclusions and label socialists as lazy, unable to take responsible for themselves, bludgers etc etc.

You guys are a joke.

Nice one. North Korea beckons for you LenIIIn, there are plenty of brainwashed Communistas who would lap up your Cyclopsian tirades against the free market, personal responsibility etc etc.
You could quickly become Kim Jong-Iil's favourite advisor! (King of Scotland springs to mind...)