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    Defensive driving?

    Hey just wanna check up on one of the rules in getting your full license....Must you do a defensive driving course of similar during your restricted, or if you've done it in the past for your car full and have your car full is that counted straight away and therefore reduces restricted to 12months before you can go for your full?

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    It says in the book you have to have done it AFTER holding your 6R for 6 months. But it's really not something you want to to twice.... tried ringing AA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingrob View Post
    Hey just wanna check up on one of the rules in getting your full license....Must you do a defensive driving course of similar during your restricted, or if you've done it in the past for your car full and have your car full is that counted straight away and therefore reduces restricted to 12months before you can go for your full?
    It has to be done during your restricted, and if you're under 25 you have to wait a certain amount of time - 6 months on your restricted before you can do it, if I remember right. If you're over 25 and cutting down from 6 months to 3, then it has to be done within those three.

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    I did my defensive driving as a way to get my 6F sooner, being an over 25 driver, and having been driving for the last 15 years. However, that said, I would encourage you to go along to the defensive driving regardless of if it speeds up your 6F or not, as it is well worth doing. ( Which I was somewhat surprised by ).

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    Yeah but it's exactly the same course isn't it and it's designed for road users in general. So it's great for people who start out on a bike but if you've already done it to get your full car license...then...I dunno, surely they'd think ok well he's already got the experience under control? I'll give AA a ring sometime I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WasPhantom View Post
    I did my defensive driving as a way to get my 6F sooner, being an over 25 driver, and having been driving for the last 15 years. However, that said, I would encourage you to go along to the defensive driving regardless of if it speeds up your 6F or not, as it is well worth doing. ( Which I was somewhat surprised by ).
    That's the thing, I've already done it...surely they wouldn't make me do it again when I did it what, 2 or 3 years ago?!

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    If you use your Defensive Driving Course as a "credit" towards reducing your licence time, you can only use it once. I.e if you have used it for your car, then you cannot use it towards your bike. Unless you do another course? AFAIK
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    If you use your Defensive Driving Course as a "credit" towards reducing your licence time, you can only use it once. I.e if you have used it for your car, then you cannot use it towards your bike. Unless you do another course? AFAIK
    That is correct.

    Thank you Andy Knackerhead and the idiots that came up with that gem of a rule.


    Imagine if a four year bachelor of Engineering was a single use item?

    Are they also suggesting the courses are of so low value that they are forgotten as soon as you use the certificate?

    Logic and the government seem to always be at opposite ends of the spectrum.

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    OK then well that settles it, guess I'll be paying even more money out next year just to reduce my license. I still believe that there should be a different motorbike restriction list for people with full car licenses. I'm sure most of it is due to "inexperienced road users", so if you have your full car license you are already experienced and should just need maybe 12months total on bike before you can apply for full, just to get the hang of biking and that's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingrob View Post
    That's the thing, I've already done it...surely they wouldn't make me do it again when I did it what, 2 or 3 years ago?!
    nah i tried, did one in 2003 but wasnt allowed to use it for this year. aa and ltsa are a bunch of cock wank juice suckers. they love buracisty (sp) i hate it. they hate me ringing up too.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    nah i tried, did one in 2003 but wasnt allowed to use it for this year. aa and ltsa are a bunch of cock wank juice suckers. they love buracisty (sp) i hate it. they hate me ringing up too.
    why werent you able to use it for this year? are you allowed next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    why werent you able to use it for this year? are you allowed next year?
    becasue i didnt have my 6r when i did the test, and because it was a long time ago.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    The whole bike/car licensing thing is totally borked.

    If you want a car and bike learners you have to do the same learner test twice. You can't just use your car one and add on the bike questions and basic handling test. Vice versa for bike to car.

    If you do a defensive driving course to reduce your 6R time you have to do an in-car practical. What if you don't have a 1L or 1R or 1F?

    Both F tests are almost entirely about road awareness and hazard identification. If you've done one surely you should be able to do a reduced test for the other.

    As far as I can tell the system is setup to make sure you sit as many tests as possible thus creating a driver testing and training industry - not to mention the LTSA revenue gathered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discotex View Post
    The whole bike/car licensing thing is totally borked.

    If you want a car and bike learners you have to do the same learner test twice. You can't just use your car one and add on the bike questions and basic handling test. Vice versa for bike to car.
    They have different vehicle specific questions in each. It's worth the variation.

    Quote Originally Posted by discotex View Post
    If you do a defensive driving course to reduce your 6R time you have to do an in-car practical. What if you don't have a 1L or 1R or 1F?
    I did my defensive driving practical on a 'bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by discotex View Post
    Both F tests are almost entirely about road awareness and hazard identification. If you've done one surely you should be able to do a reduced test for the other.
    Again, different vehicles. They need to make sure that you're able to be in control of your vehicle, drive/ride it safely, while still being able to maintain an awareness of what is going on around you. It's perfectly reasonable to expect you to do a full test on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WasPhantom View Post
    They have different vehicle specific questions in each. It's worth the variation.
    No they don't. The bike test is the car test with an additional 5 questions on a separate scratchy. You could be able to convert a car licence to a bike learners by just doing those 5 questions and the basic handling skills test. If you have a 6L you should be able to get a 1L for a nominal processing fee as you've already done the 1L test.

    Quote Originally Posted by WasPhantom View Post
    I did my defensive driving practical on a 'bike.
    Was that with AA?

    Quote Originally Posted by WasPhantom View Post
    Again, different vehicles. They need to make sure that you're able to be in control of your vehicle, drive/ride it safely, while still being able to maintain an awareness of what is going on around you. It's perfectly reasonable to expect you to do a full test on both.
    As I said I don't see a problem with having another test I just think it should be a reduced full test that targets the difference between the vehicles. If you've already passed the restricted test you have already proven you have enough skill to handle the vehicle safely and indicate etc.

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