Revenue collecting.

[Banesto John]

Here is a randon wee morsel I am privy to. The powers that be are going to drop the fines for almost everything, and up the demerit points.

Possibly Cullen is going to sell this as a tax cut, but maybe I'm just cynical.

However, it makes it hard to argue that the tickets are about revenue when the revenue will surely take a dive.

Will it make much difference to how we drive/ride? Less tickets needed to lose the right to drive/ride.

I am thinking it is aimed at the "car enthusiasts" who rack of zillions of bucks in fines and don't give a toss.

Interested in your thoughts.

[jimbo600]

Never happen. ACC coughed up money for police to buy a certain number of HP cars, and as such they are obliged to issue fines to compensate.

[oldrider]

Here is a randon wee morsel I am privy to. The powers that be are going to drop the fines for almost everything, and up the demerit points.

Possibly Cullen is going to sell this as a tax cut, but maybe I'm just cynical.

However, it makes it hard to argue that the tickets are about revenue when the revenue will surely take a dive.

Will it make much difference to how we drive/ride? Less tickets needed to lose the right to drive/ride.

I am thinking it is aimed at the "car enthusiasts" who rack of zillions of bucks in fines and don't give a toss.

Interested in your thoughts.

It must be something the United Nations wants implemented, Clark's masters! They say jump, she says, how high?

Whatever this government does, it's based on their anti-social, anti-freedom, anti-people attitudes anyway.

I will be glad to see the back of them. Bastards, John.

[craigs288]

It must be something the United Nations wants implemented, Clark's masters! They say jump, she says, how high?

Whatever this government does, it's based on their anti-social, anti-freedom, anti-people attitudes anyway.

I will be glad to see the back of them. Bastards, John.

I think they just change the rules from time to time to see how pliant the population is. Kind of testing the water. If there is no reaction from the public then life goes on as normal but you are slightly more restricted. Or you continue as normal and get punished more often.

We need some kind of divisive issue that the Government ends up pushing its agenda at us, and the majority of the country are opposed to it so that the Government ends up in a position where it has to either do it's job, i.e. doing what the majority of the country wants, or it continues to push it's own agenda at our expense and then it will be obvious to everybody what is already obvious to many right now.

The Government is not there to exercise the will of the public with regard to running the country, which is the reason it exists.
It is there to implement it's own agenda at our expense, in spite of our best efforts

[The Pastor]

Here is a randon wee morsel I am privy to. The powers that be are going to drop the fines for almost everything,

drop them by how much? 5$? 10? - it aint going to happen

whats going to happen is demerits will go up (didnt they just do that last year or the year before?)

Oh joy now you'll have 3 tickets and no licence i love walking

[Coldrider]

Drop the fines, increase the demerit points, then put the fines back up in a couple of years when 'the experiment did not work'. Tell Helein to just put the fines & demerit up, to be truthful about the matter instead of treating us citizens like durex survey repondents.
They get stuff all roadside taxes from me anyway.

[MarkyMark]

I dunno, I kind of like the idea. As it is rich people can just laugh off a fine that would have a poor guy living on bread and water to pay off. This way everyone gets hurt equally, rah rah egalitarianism, I say!

[xwhatsit]

As a poor student, I too approve

Personally, that's how I've seen these type of things anyway. Money is worth different amounts of punishment to different people. More direct punishment (i.e. restricting the use of the thing you were fucking around with) in the form of demerits, or getting banned from the pub, or whatever is a bit better.

[Ocean1]

I dunno, I kind of like the idea. As it is rich people can just laugh off a fine that would have a poor guy living on bread and water to pay off. This way everyone gets hurt equally, rah rah egalitarianism, I say!

As a poor student, I too approve

Personally, that's how I've seen these type of things anyway. Money is worth different amounts of punishment to different people.

And income is usually a good indication of someone's guilt eh? Reason enough to hammer them rich bastards harder...

I wonder sometimes why there's any reasonably sane people left here. In fact, much as I love my home I can't see me being here much longer. One less "them" for those left to worry about.

[The Pastor]

I feer demeirts way more than demerits, soon you will be 3 tickets at 120km/hr in a 100 zone and you will be walking.

[MotoGirl]

I wonder sometimes why there's any reasonably sane people left here. In fact, much as I love my home I can't see me being here much longer. One less "them" for those left to worry about.

Tell me about it! I generally don't involved in current affairs because the government pisses me off too much and why should I ruin my day because it's full of fuc*wits?. I'd rather not know about what's going on than live in a place that makes me sour.

If this Labour government gets back in I'll be seriously tempted to jump the ditch.

[peasea]

As a poor student, I too approve

Personally, that's how I've seen these type of things anyway. Money is worth different amounts of punishment to different people. More direct punishment (i.e. restricting the use of the thing you were fucking around with) in the form of demerits, or getting banned from the pub, or whatever is a bit better.

I'm not made of money but I really don't give a rat's arse about tickets; demerits are annoying but they don't make much difference in the long run. After a while of behaving yourself it's back on the pace isn't it?

Fines? Just plead poverty (after pleading not guilty), drip them up for five bucks a week and who cares? I've paid thousands of dollars in fines over the years; has it slowed me down? No. I don't go flat out everywhere but I like to cruise at over 100kph whenever the road and conditions allow. The powers that be need to get off the 'speed kills' bandwagon, it's a crock of revenue-gathering shite.

Fuck the law, it's an ass after all.

[Ocean1]

Tell me about it! I generally don't involved in current affairs because the government pisses me off too much and why should I ruin my day because it's full of fuc*wits?. I'd rather not know about what's going on than live in a place that makes me sour.

If this Labour government gets back in I'll be seriously tempted to jump the ditch.

Come run away with me babe!!! Rumour has it there's a bunch of bikes over there... and have you seen the shape of some of the arses expecting to fit them? Yo- erm, We'll be rolling in it in no time.

[canarlee]

lower the fines and raise the demerits? fine by me.



i wonder where they will make up the shortfall from?

[P38]

Having just got back from a trip to Queensland lemme fill you in on a what happened to my sons flat mate.

One sunnny "School Holiday" weekend he decided to take his blackbird for a wee ride down the highway. He reckons the day was awesome, good mates, good bikes and lots of great twisties to have fun on. But how things changed.

A week or so later he recieved the notice in the mail... speed camera fine and 3 demierit points and a couple hundred in fines... bastard. School holidays Oh No double the points 6 demerit points, Ouch!

The next day another notice in the mail....another speed camera fine and 3 more demierit points... Hang on they made a mistake! This fine was from the same camera on the same streach of road on the same day... Dumb Asses musta sent the same notice twice..

Hold on again! a flat mate has just spied the time and speed on each notice ... bummer five minutes apart different speeds.

Double Oh No!! Two fines on one day, School Holidays as well double the demrit points.

Do the math start with 12 demerit points then take away 6 + 6 that equals loss of licence.

Seems that after the ride he visited the local Dairy and got snapped both there an back doing about 70 in a 60kms area.

From what he reckons he'd rather pay off a fine an have his bike licence still.

That would hurt for me too.

BTW parking fines also gets ya demerit points.

P38