Fatal crash on SH1: RIP Back Fire (Razya)

**MVnut** · 20th October 2007, 10:00

Originally Posted by merv

Is this the first known bike victim of a cheesecutter in NZ?

RIP.

No, friend of mine (& of Frosty) in 91 on the Harbour Bridge offramp heading into town. RIP

**Toaster** · 20th October 2007, 10:03

RIP, but what a waste of life.... next post.....

**Toaster** · 20th October 2007, 10:04

Originally Posted by chanceyy

heard this too .. apparently speeds of 150ks before crashing

condolences to the family

And yet so many keep putting up posts and threads ranting on that speeding is okay and the cops are wankers. I wonder why my head gets so sore banging on the preverbial brick wall.

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Oh no...not another one. PLEASE ride safe, peoples.

Exactly.... 150km/h is never "safe". Yet another life wasted, yet another family distraught over the loss of a loved one that never needed to die. Yet another horrible mess for emergency services to clean up and for the taxpayer to pay for.

**Hawkeye** · 20th October 2007, 10:10

Originally Posted by Toaster

And yet so many keep putting up posts and threads ranting on that speeding is okay and the cops are wankers. I wonder why my head gets so sore banging on the preverbial brick wall.

Exactly.... 150km/h is never "safe". Yet another life wasted, yet another family distraught over the loss of a loved one that never needed to die. Yet another horrible mess for emergency services to clean up and for the taxpayer to pay for.

While I appreciate the sentiment in what you are saying Toaster, maybe this is not the thread to be saying it in!

Condolences to the family - RIP.

**steveb64** · 20th October 2007, 10:59

Originally Posted by Toaster

And yet so many keep putting up posts and threads ranting on that speeding is okay and the cops are wankers. I wonder why my head gets so sore banging on the preverbial brick wall.

Exactly.... 150km/h is never "safe". Yet another life wasted, yet another family distraught over the loss of a loved one that never needed to die. Yet another horrible mess for emergency services to clean up and for the taxpayer to pay for.

And in 2003, 332 people died by falling in the bath (in the states).

See http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm

Speed only causes accidents in that if the wheels wern't turning, there probably wouldn't have been an accident (I say probably, 'cos I've read some of the other KB threads...).
After the wheels start turning, there's usually another 'actual' cause for the accident. Speed just increases the severity of damage suffered/inflicted in an accident. It doesn't cause them. The actual accident can generally be traced back to some other cause... Loss of traction due to shite tyres or shite road surface, rider inattention/error, external influence - sideswiped by cage, or critter...
It's just the LTSA's official position to incite mass hysteria by blaming "Speed". Means they can justify their revenue gathering.

Bit like the bloke who's had a glass of beer, then gets T-boned by a boy racer (or granny) - it gets called "alcohol related", and the guy who's had the beer gets blamed! Even though he was following all other rules perfectly, and it was the other driver at fault...

BTW - Condolences to the riders friends and family. It's ALWAYS sad to hear of another loss. RIP.

**Donor** · 20th October 2007, 11:09

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

While I appreciate the sentiment in what you are saying Toaster, maybe this is not the thread to be saying it in!

Condolences to the family - RIP.

I disagree...

May his death serve as a lesson to future generations of squids, as well as be a testimony to the short life he led, and the memories he has left behind...

**skidMark** · 20th October 2007, 11:17

lets keep this to condolences fellas no place to be argueing about this

R.I.P fellow KB'r may heaven be an endless windy road....

condoleces to the family and friends also.. i guess we will wait for the name to be released...no speculation please....

**dogsnbikes** · 20th October 2007, 11:19

rip dude and may your soul ride on

**FROSTY:Me** · 20th October 2007, 11:21

Could we please keep THIS thread on subject
Rightly or wrongly another biker is dead
Condolences to all his family and freinds

**skidMark** · 20th October 2007, 11:47

can somebody please post the moment theres anymore details...

**Toaster** · 20th October 2007, 11:58

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Motorcyclist dies in crash that closes motorway
7:55AM Saturday October 20, 2007

A motorcyclist is dead after a crash on Auckland's Southern Motorway early today.

Police said the crash took place in the Papakura area, and has caused the northbound lanes of the motorway to be closed between Papakura and Manurewa.

The motorcyclist hit the wire median barrier in the middle of the motorway and debris was spread over a wide area, said Inspector Gary Hill.

The motorway was closed for several hours until a single lane was opened later in the morning.

Mr Hill said the motorcyclist died at the scene but his name and other details would not be released until possibly later today.