A prayer for anyone who's interested

[Grahameeboy]

Why do you end the prayer with 'Shalom'? 'Amen' would be more appropriate, surely. Shalom, essentially, means 'hello' or is used where formal to semi-formal greetings are required.

Well in essence when you say Shalom you are not only proclaiming peace, but also the meanings of the word over that person which is a a hug blessing.

Amen is an affirmation which is the norm.

Smoky was just adding a bit of extra to the prayer.

[klingon]

sorry but if i want religeon(sp?) then i will got to a fuckin church, this aint the place.

... and if you want politics you can go to parliament
... and if you want jokes you can go to a comedy show
... and if you want your grammar corrected you can go to school
... and if you want to socialise you can join a ladies' sewing circle

Actually there are all kinds of points of view expressed on this site - a lot of which I disagree with and some I think are a complete waste of space. Religion is no more or less appropriate than any other topic.

[yungatart]

sorry but if i want religeon(sp?) then i will got to a fuckin church, this aint the place.

hXc here - and if you don't want to read about religion, then don't fucking click it.

Yungatart here.
Thank you for sharing that. I hope it can bring comfort to some.
Leigh....you clicked it dude, despite the word "prayer" being in the title.....your choice. Don't vent about it, its not necessary.

[MSTRS:Me]

damn god botherers!

sorry but if i want religeon(sp?) then i will got to a fuckin church, this aint the place.

sorry but i dont see a link on this thread.

was that the incident on SH1 very recently? i understand the sentimentallity, although why should that bring religeon (sp?) to this site i dont know.



maybe a link to an external site would have been more appropiate?


sorry but i am neither for or against religeon (again sp? i know...) but i do not come here to see it in any context.

i repeat; i am neither for or against.


i do not come here to see either.





EDIT



like i said before, a link to an external site for religeous (sp? i think i got it right this time?) purposes would have been more appropiate.

For someone who doesn't want to come here and read 'religion' you sure got a lot to say about it. People come here for all sorts of reasons. Those that don't like what they see, either stay out of those threads or end up not coming back.
Which one will you be?

[007XX]

I am a non religious person, but I respect the message of this prayer, and I certainly hope it can bring comfort to the family affected by such a tragic loss.

I would have hoped that we would be all intelligent and open minded enough to respect what was obviously meant as a genuine attempt to help in a time of great need and sorrow.

I am no one special on this site, but let me say the obvious: our petty squablings mean nothing in the face of what this family is now going through, and the fallen rider was one of ours.

So if some Kbers feel the need to pray for him, it is their right to do so. Each to their own!

[Sanx]

Well in essence when you say Shalom you are not only proclaiming peace, but also the meanings of the word over that person which is a a hug blessing.

At the risk of taking it off-topic (again), what religion would add the 'Shalom' to the end of such a prayer?

[Grahameeboy]

At the risk of taking it off-topic (again), what religion would add the 'Shalom' to the end of such a prayer?

It's Jewish but no reason why I cannot say it it if occasion suits.

[smoky]

Why do you end the prayer with 'Shalom'? 'Amen' would be more appropriate, surely. Shalom, essentially, means 'hello' or is used where formal to semi-formal greetings are required.

I use Shalom as a salutation - as in peace, good bye & good luck - kinda thing.

The traditional Amen dedicates the prayer to a specific God, untradraditionaly not my version of God. It's only a fundamental personal difference that makes very little difference to the intent.
You’ll notice the pray is not titled to any one God, as we all have our own truth on that matter, and I was not wanting to offend any one.

[MSTRS:Me]

I use Shalom as a salutation - as in good bye, good luck - kinda thing.

Multi-purpose word. Kia Ora means hello, but how often do you hear it used to signify 'Truth - you are welcome - agreement...etc' ?? What's the problem with Shalom - it is very similar to the Arabic Salaam and used in the same contexts.

[325rocket]

not for or against religion either but this was a nice thought and nice thing to do.

[Brett]

sorry but if i want religeon(sp?) then i will got to a fuckin church, this aint the place.

You didn't need to read the link mate.

[Brett]

My favourite quote from the Bible:

Psalm 23

The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures, (1)
he leads me beside quiet waters,

He restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness (2)
for his name's sake.

Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil, (3)
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil; (4)
my cup overflows.

Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life, (5)
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.

Amen


Reasons for this being my favourite are

(1) It reminds me that when the going gets tough a "higher power" will ensure that it is not enough to break me.

(2) It reminds me that God has placed a conscience inside of me to guide me in the ways of integrity, honesty and it reminds me that as a person I have certain 'dues' to other people and their well being. No man is an island, and o man should ignore another or his plight. We need to support and love one another regardless of sex, religion, race etc.

(3) It reminds me that God will protect me, and in Him I place such faith, this is not easy. I personally find it hard to hand control of anything over to anyone else...

(4) It reminds me that God has my back and that as long as I do what he asks and demands of me, he will lead me down the given track I need to follow and that he will provide and look after me, my friends and family who are important to me.

(5) It reminds me that so long as I follow his path for my life and remember the values that are important to me, I will produce positive outcomes (those of goodwill and love) for the people around me

and finally, it gives me hope for when I die.


I dont care whether you are an atheist, muslim, mormon or whatever and I respect each persons on decisions for their life. I think that people who get riled up by things such as prayer need to exam why they do so. No harm is intended in the doing and generally those who do so offer their prayers out of concern & love.

I struggle to associate with Christianity know days because it has turned into a judgemental and ludicrous show (take happy clappy pentecostal churches for an example) and I strongly believe that many churches are far to legalistic and up their own arses and dont actually reach and preach to the "real"world. That said, I follow what Jesus wrote in the bible and follow his teachings. Jesus taught love and acceptance of people. You dont have to agree with them, but that should never cause a divide.

[Street Gerbil]

Baruch atah Hashem Elokeinu melech haolam, dayan ha'emet
El melekh rachamim shochayn bamromim Ham’tzay menucha nechona tachat kanfei ha’shekhina b’maalot k’doshim u-t’horim k’zohar mazhirim lnishmaot kdoshaynu shehalchu l’olamim. Ana ba’al harachamim hastiraym b’tzel knafecha lolamim u’tzror bitztror ha-chayim et nishmatam. Adonai hu nachalatam v’yanuchu v’shalom al mishkavam v’nomar amen.

Be blessed the G-d our Lord, the bringer of truth.
G-d filled with mercy, dwelling in the heaven’s heights, bring proper rest beneath the wings of your blessed presence, amid the ranks of the holy and the pure, illuminating like the brilliance of the skies the souls of those who went to their eternal place of rest. May you who are the source of mercy shelter them beneath your wings eternally, and bind their souls among the living, that they may rest in peace. Amen.

[Donor]

For those that have issues about 'religious' prayer... cop this then

Dear Lord, as I get ready to get on this hog and prepare to ride,
Just let me feel your presence with me riding side by side.
Let us feel the wind together blowing across our face,
Don't let me fail to see and smell the nature around me as I ride from
place to place.

Dear Lord, keep me safe from harm and let the other drivers see me as I ride by,
And every once in awhile even though I'm a biker let them say, "Hi".
Keep me alert and always watching for others,
Don't let me ever fail to stop and help out one of my sisters or brothers.

And when my time on earth is up and it's time for me to take that ride in the sky,
Just give me a chance to tell everyone I love them and don't forget me when I die.
Lord, Thank You for letting me be a biker and doing what I loved the best,
For the many miles I traveled, places I got to go and see before I finally came to rest.

@copyright by Dean Downey-2002

[Brett]

For those that have issues about 'religious' prayer... cop this then

Dear Lord, as I get ready to get on this hog and prepare to ride,
Just let me feel your presence with me riding side by side.
Let us feel the wind together blowing across our face,
Don't let me fail to see and smell the nature around me as I ride from
place to place.

Dear Lord, keep me safe from harm and let the other drivers see me as I ride by,
And every once in awhile even though I'm a biker let them say, "Hi".
Keep me alert and always watching for others,
Don't let me ever fail to stop and help out one of my sisters or brothers.

And when my time on earth is up and it's time for me to take that ride in the sky,
Just give me a chance to tell everyone I love them and don't forget me when I die.
Lord, Thank You for letting me be a biker and doing what I loved the best,
For the many miles I traveled, places I got to go and see before I finally came to rest.

@copyright by Dean Downey-2002

Hahahahaha...I like it.