Project Sprinter, What Bike??

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd October 2007, 11:16

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Hmm, did I pass you sunday arvo coming back from racing in the Van I saw one of those on a trailer with a Red CBR or something (brief look at the suzi in case it was a T125 & then back to the road).

PS: could be keen on the headlight etc for my T125.

1: Yes you did you bloody hoon! Still had a bit of adrenalin left eh?

2: It was red and a victim of an unlucky choice

but not a CBR - poor bike spotting skills there Dave but you were probably driving too fast (refer to point 1 above) - speed kills Dave

3: Find your own headlamp ya bludger

- like I said - Vicki kinda fancies Kermit, the kids like him, one of the girls boyfriends wants one now - I'm setting a trend here...

**F5 Dave** · 23rd October 2007, 11:57

1. I wasn't towing a trailer you cheeky upstart.

2. It was a CBR or a Ducati with a pipe sticking out the back they both look the same & of little interest atm. 'Course now you'll say it was a 675, but as I said I was concentrating on the road with a limited time to observe the mighty 'suzi.

3. So you've lost the battle to make it a sprinter already? If you sold off the street bits it would settle the argument. Well I have one, just a little rust.

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd October 2007, 14:11

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

1. I wasn't towing a trailer you cheeky upstart.

Upstart? I've been promoted then? Yeah - I can see why you have a van, people don't like following trailers at 90kph do they?

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

2. It was a CBR or a Ducati with a pipe sticking out the back they both look the same & of little interest atm. 'Course now you'll say it was a 675, but as I said I was concentrating on the road with a limited time to observe the mighty 'suzi.

It's not my story to tell - I was giving the rider and bike a lift because they got weary and needed a little lay down and I happened past with a convenient trailer in tow.

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

3. So you've lost the battle to make it a sprinter already? If you sold off the street bits it would settle the argument. Well I have one, just a little rust.

I didn't fight too hard actually - it was hillarious fun riding it around our place - Vicki is placing bets with the kids to see which bone I break first...

**koba** · 23rd October 2007, 14:22

I was kinda hoping you would get somthing cheap because it would be awesome to follow the trand and have a few people playing the same game.

All I would need is an old A100, I wonder where I could get one of those from......

**Str8 Jacket** · 23rd October 2007, 14:24

Originally Posted by koba

All I would need is an old A100, I wonder where I could get one of those from......

hmmm, I wonder..... Touch it and you die! I cant wait until I have a whole family of 2 smokers!

Paul - If you do manage to be able to get it to the sprints then I will bring the A as well.

**xwhatsit** · 23rd October 2007, 14:29

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Oh crap! This has blown up in my face! This little bike has turned out to be very rescuable - quite tidy in places, it runs, its as cute as a button, is HILLARIOUS to ride and Vicki can managed it... Shit - looks like another intervention rather than a sprint bike project.....

It looks like an AC50 but its actually an A100..... Bwahahaha Its really very funny to ride and people just fall about laughing when they see it....

It has a few personality disorders (some stuff already fell off)

Welcome to KB Kermit ....

I reckon Vicki and I will look right styly headed to the Cafe' on this.... (well OK I might take the Trophy but they are both green)

Woohooo!!!!

Wish you were my Uncle, Paul. You're the coolest

I am falling about laughing. Just a bit.

I will be totally pissed if you can out-drag my bike. Which sounds likely.

There's a bloke on KB called Bass -- he lives up here in white-shoe land, at a workshop night he was discussing expansion chamber design (for GiJoe1313's RZ250 cum 350) and he certainly knows his stuff. Might be worth flicking him a PM.

**koba** · 23rd October 2007, 14:31

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Today, 15:22

All I would need is an old A100, I wonder where I could get one of those from......

Today, 15:24
hmmm, I wonder..... Touch it and you die! I cant wait until I have a whole family of 2 smokers!

That took 2 minutes!

**F5 Dave** · 23rd October 2007, 14:34

I have 9 bikes, only 2 are 4-strokes. The Van I admit is also a 4 stroke, but I'd hate to pay for petrol otherwise.

One has to ask at what point does one modify an old beater for a laugh & at what point is it hacking up a future classic?

My take is I guess is how many were there of them & how many are left?

Always remember the BIKE cartoon with the guy knocking on the door with the lynch mob waiting around the corner "Are you the one advertising a Chopped Vincent?"

**Drew** · 23rd October 2007, 15:05

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Not so fast - Its too nice to slice up and Vicki thinks she might like it as a street bike.. drat.. Once I sus out its issues we will see but it IS kinda what I've been looking for.. Jepers it's LOUD!

Hold on a minute yo self, you got us all excited about this project sprinter, ya cant deny us watchin it come to fruition!!!

You'll get the ton from it easy, wont even need to put a proper carb on it for that, I got 100kph out of an A50. All I did was take the cover off the carb to get it air, and took the jet needle out alltogether. Instant top end power. A large chunk is attainable by taking a few thou off the top of the barrel, (about 5mm would be a good start with the A) and chucking packers in under the critter. Cos they are tuned to try and acheive low end useable power.

Expansion chambers are quite the art form, but the man you wanna ask about them is Robert Taylor, he made his name building stupidly fast two stroke engines. It is a fairly complex equation, that involves bore and stroke, port timing, and exhaust temp.

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd October 2007, 16:06

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

One has to ask at what point does one modify an old beater for a laugh & at what point is it hacking up a future classic?

My take is I guess is how many were there of them & how many are left?

Always remember the BIKE cartoon with the guy knocking on the door with the lynch mob waiting around the corner "Are you the one advertising a Chopped Vincent?"

Very true but this has already been hacked at which is one reason why I purchased it. A nice AC50 would be kept as an AC50, this bike has had the tank mounts changed and all sorts of other stuff done to make it look like an AC50. My theory is to now make it look like a 1970s dream machine - mudflaps, green striped seat cover (the insulation tape has to go) when I cut the seat down for Vicki..

Its a hybrid already so it's never going to be collectable, original or worth much so it may as well be FUN!

edit - ya know the funny thing is.... When they were new - there were hundreds of them parked at every highschool in NZ and we couldn't wait to cut the beggars up! hence the irony in having something that looks like one now..

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd October 2007, 16:11

Originally Posted by Drew

Hold on a minute yo self, you got us all excited about this project sprinter, ya cant deny us watchin it come to fruition!!!.

Easy big fella - there is every likelyhood that there will be some sprint action from it - just not sure when as it has a bit much personality and a bit too little reliability at the moment and who says I've stopped looking for a more suitable candidate......

I do have a little medical issue front of mind right at the moment though, it's a matter of priority....

Imagine 2 AC50's joined together...... oh hang on, that could be the meds..

**Pancakes** · 23rd October 2007, 19:25

So sprints, this is beach drags or a flying quater? Whats the format. This sounds cool. Most classes want to be fast which means power and $$'s, frames, suspension and it goes on. If it was up to 200cc singles, safety check but no WOF etc that'd be a bit of me. I don't recon I'm cut out for racing, would like to tinker tho and you don't "tinker" on a competitive race bike these days. (well, not with my limited knowledge). An old quad single, solid rear and some stolen forks. where's the beach!

**Drew** · 23rd October 2007, 19:46

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

I do have a little medical issue front of mind right at the moment though, it's a matter of priority....

How on earth will you make the project work after you've had a lobotomy?

**rwh** · 23rd October 2007, 19:52

If someone wants to make a go of a dead VT250F, let me know ... I have a bunch of stuff (including a complete bike, and a spare incomplete one) cluttering up the garage.

Richard