Police shoot and kill another person

[idleidolidyll]

Extremely interesting to hear Ross Meurant attacking the police last week.

For those who don't know him, Meurant is the ex boss of the Red Squad, New Zealand's notorious squad started in reaction to protests in the 1981 Sprongbox Rugby Tour. He has always been very right wing and pro police.

Recently though, Meurant has had an epiphany. He now says he finally realises just how sucked in he was by Police 'group think' and how dangerous that is to New Zealand and it's people.

Essentially Meurant agrees now that the Police ARE a law unto themselves and see themselves as answerable to no-one, not the government and not the voters and citizens of this country. He particularly attacks the Police Complaints Authority and the Police Union: both of which do fuck all to hold the Police accountable or to the expectations of the people of NZ. Instead, both these institutions merely whitewash police actions and hamper honest attempts to clean up damaging police psyche.

For an ex insider of the extreme right to speak out so clearly against the Police in such a manner is a brave and laudable action and although he remains right wing; I applaud Ross Meurant for having the balls to say what we have known for a long time in the face of Police bullshit.

[Hitcher]

Ross Meurant is a head case. Anybody who has followed his career since his departure from the Police would have difficulty finding otherwise. His "exploits" as a Rodney District Councillor are legend. Anything he says should be taken with a liberal application of MSG.

[Indoo]

Recently though, Meurant has had an epiphany. He now says he finally realises just how sucked in he was by Police 'group think' and how dangerous that is to New Zealand and it's people.

Yeh and I'm sure that epiphany has nothing to do with his arrest and conviction not to long ago for impersonating a cop and assault now does it?

[scumdog]

Extremely interesting to hear Ross Meurant attacking the police last week.

Recently though, Meurant has had an epiphany. He now says he finally realises just how sucked in he was by Police 'group think' and how dangerous that is to New Zealand and it's people.

Essentially Meurant agrees now that the Police ARE a law unto themselves and see themselves as answerable to no-one, not the government and not the voters and citizens of this country. He particularly attacks the Police Complaints Authority and the Police Union: both of which do fuck all to hold the Police accountable or to the expectations of the people of NZ. Instead, both these institutions merely whitewash police actions and hamper honest attempts to clean up damaging police psyche..

Ahh, another disaffected ex-employee with not axe to grind? hmmm.

Police 'group think' and 'dangerous to the people" 'hamper honest attemps to clean up damaging police psyche'? - Go Chairman Mao!!

A 'law unto themselves' - describe??

But nice troll anyway - I'm sure SOMEBODY will leap on the bandwagon on this.

[I Smell Bacon]

Ross Meurant is a head case. Anybody who has followed his career since his departure from the Police would have difficulty finding otherwise. His "exploits" as a Rodney District Councillor are legend. Anything he says should be taken with a liberal application of MSG.

Heard him briefly on radio live this afternoon talking to JT, it was pathetic and completely misleading.

[davereid]

Yeah, the mans a plonker.

[idleidolidyll]

Ross Meurant is a head case. Anybody who has followed his career since his departure from the Police would have difficulty finding otherwise. His "exploits" as a Rodney District Councillor are legend. Anything he says should be taken with a liberal application of MSG.

Yes, right wingers are often headcases but both you and I know that hearsay and appeals to authority, especially our own opinions, are fallacy.

What is pertinent is that Meurant recognised and identified the group think that exists in the police and outed it last week.

[idleidolidyll]

Ahh, another disaffected ex-employee with not axe to grind? hmmm.

Police 'group think' and 'dangerous to the people" 'hamper honest attemps to clean up damaging police psyche'? - Go Chairman Mao!!

A 'law unto themselves' - describe??

But nice troll anyway - I'm sure SOMEBODY will leap on the bandwagon on this.

from a group think insider...............yyaawwnnnn!!!!

hilarious!

[idleidolidyll]

Yeh and I'm sure that epiphany has nothing to do with his arrest and conviction not to long ago for impersonating a cop and assault now does it?

so he found out the hard way just what a bunch of arseholes cops can be; about time they all discovered this fact and saw the light outside their cosy little clique where all thinking is the same and unpolluted with reality or the expectations of the citizens of the country..................

[idleidolidyll]

Heard him briefly on radio live this afternoon talking to JT, it was pathetic and completely misleading.

be specific, blanket dissing is childs play

[Patrick]

Care to elaborate on this? As I think you will find you are wrong.

Soldiers get cheap lodgings and food, or are you talking about under training?

I worked at Waiouru recently... might be very cheap food and lodgings, including housing... we don't get that, is all... gotta buy all my groceries and pay the mortgage.

Extremely interesting to hear Ross Meurant attacking the police last week..... I applaud Ross Meurant for having the balls to say what we have known for a long time in the face of Police bullshit.

Like his maiden speech in Parliament back in 1987??? "Maori radicals training in the bush" he said......... He is pissed off that he was ignored all this time.

Yeh and I'm sure that epiphany has nothing to do with his arrest and conviction not to long ago for impersonating a cop and assault now does it?

THAT might have something to do with the above as well.... pissed off being locked up, like a common sack... although I believe he was actually summonsed to court.

Yes, right wingers are often headcases but both me and I know that my own opinions, are fallacy.

Well, there ya go....

[scumdog]

so he found out the hard way just what a bunch of arseholes cops can be; about time they all discovered this fact and saw the light outside their cosy little clique where all thinking is the same and unpolluted with reality or the expectations of the citizens of the country..................

And happy to live like that as long as the tax-payer keeps paying me


- and I can go on KB rides from time to time.

[_Shrek_]

Extremely interesting to hear Ross Meurant attacking the police last week.

For those who don't know him, Meurant is the ex boss of the Red Squad, New Zealand's notorious squad started in reaction to protests in the 1981 Sprongbox Rugby Tour. He has always been very right wing and pro police.

Recently though, Meurant has had an epiphany. He now says he finally realises just how sucked in he was by Police 'group think' and how dangerous that is to New Zealand and it's people.

Essentially Meurant agrees now that the Police ARE a law unto themselves and see themselves as answerable to no-one, not the government and not the voters and citizens of this country. He particularly attacks the Police Complaints Authority and the Police Union: both of which do fuck all to hold the Police accountable or to the expectations of the people of NZ. Instead, both these institutions merely whitewash police actions and hamper honest attempts to clean up damaging police psyche.

For an ex insider of the extreme right to speak out so clearly against the Police in such a manner is a brave and laudable action and although he remains right wing; I applaud Ross Meurant for having the balls to say what we have known for a long time in the face of Police bullshit.

well Idleidolidyll you must be a mate of Meurants good for you coz he could use one, or don't know shit about him

he has been a red neck for as long as i have known him, you have to wonder if he left the police or was asked to back in the 80's & he has always had an axe to grind where the cops are concerned

i remember he used to talk about these bush training camps in the early 90's but as usual the dicks at the top had no ears, & the GOVT don't want to know

but that don't give Meurant the right to slag off at the cops coz he got caught doing somthing he shouldn't be

i for one have spent a part of my past on the wrong side & yes there are some real AH in the police force & on the bench in the courts judging us when they should be standing in the dock but they are trying to clean it up

& i would rather have the cops we have now than a bunch of trigger happy gangs running around the place doing what they feel is right as this present govt condons by not putting them behind bars or making them pay for what they did

[sAsLEX]

I worked at Waiouru recently... might be very cheap food and lodgings, including housing... we don't get that, is all... gotta buy all my groceries and pay the mortgage.

SO do I.

Yes housing is cheap for Service personnel, yes eating at the mess is cheap, and yes they get generally crappy wages as well and can work huge hours in conditions that don't bear asking about... well the Army anyways I like my air conditioning and three square meals a day!

The thing is would you want to live in Wiberia?

[TLMAN]

SO do I.

Yes housing is cheap for Service personnel, yes eating at the mess is cheap, and yes they get generally crappy wages as well and can work huge hours in conditions that don't bear asking about... well the Army anyways I like my air conditioning and three square meals a day!

The thing is would you want to live in Wiberia?

Once you start working your way up the ranks the NZ Army pays well. When you go overseas to all those shitty places you get extra pay depending on where you go.
Where the hell is Wiberia? It sounds