Handling V Power - you chose

[codgyoleracer]

Here's one for ya:
Scenario: Two identical bikes, same brand, same tyres, 600cc supersports but No1 bike only has 100hp but has the handling abilty as good as a top world supersport 600 & more brakes than Jill Clendons shoulder.

No2 bike handles like a bucket of bolts, + has shit brakes but has the benefit of a 130hp engine.

On a track like Manfield with an equal amount of straights & corners which one circulates faster with the same semi-skilled rider on board. (you are not allowed to work on either bike & improve it)

[marioc]

The good handling bike for sure no question

[quallman1234]

Depends on the rider!

If its the same rider both times then the better handling one will get around faster.

[avgas]

Power for me - i compensate for poor handling. always have.
Its a miracle if you get around corners, but once your next to them leaving the corners the final exit they eat your dust.

[White trash]

Do you ever work Glen?

For the record, I'd choose the ill handling power house because at the moment that's what I've got and I enjoy a challenge but what I'd choose isn't the question.

Which is faster? Most people are intelligent enough I think to pick that the good handler will lap faster hands down over the hot rod. In most instances that is.

[deanohit]

Ahhh, but thats where corner speed comes into it Avgas, I would rather go around a corner at 100 then get up to 150 then through the next corner at 100 rather than 75-170-75 because smoothness (usually) wins.

[White trash]

As an example. If you have someone that is an inexperianced or bad enough rider that they simply dribble aroundcorners anyway, they simply wont lean the bike for example, then probably the powerfull bike will allow them to lap faster. It wont encourage them to become a better rider like a good handler will however.

[skelstar]

Is GP125's lapping around the same kinda of time as some F3 bikes a good example?

Thats heresay info, I could be wrong.

[avgas]

Ahhh, but thats where corner speed comes into it Avgas, I would rather go around a corner at 100 then get up to 150 then through the next corner at 100 rather than 75-170-75 because smoothness (usually) wins.

True - but not always the case, i have met a few people that corner fine with the back wheel out/front wheel up, taking the long way around rather than knee into it trying to make the minimum distance. Kill the throttle and drop the hammer does still give your those cornering speeds if your good enough. Its all about how much you risk.

[ArcherWC]

Handling any day, I allways do suspension work on my bikes (dirt or road) before any power modes

[deanohit]

True - but not always the case, i have met a few people that corner fine with the back wheel out/front wheel up, taking the long way around rather than knee into it trying to make the minimum distance. Kill the throttle and drop the hammer does still give your those cornering speeds if your good enough. Its all about how much you risk.

Yep, thats true, and I see your point, but I was going on the original question though where it says "semi-skilled rider on board", not a pro.

[avgas]

Yep, thats true, and I see your point, but I was going on the original question though where it says "semi-skilled rider on board", not a pro.

true that. I would probably still go for the hp over handling, as its not too expensive to do suspension these days. And kudos feels more fun than championship points in my mind. 30% increase in hp is a fair wack - cant be cheap to do that to the other motor if you wanted.
Mind you dont take my advice, i do ride the "king rat" - which says alot about me doesnt it.
In saying that i have only ridden 1 bike that actually handled like a supermarket trolley.

[deanohit]

You should try riding my bike some time then, I'd love both more handling and more power!!

[avgas]

You should try riding my bike some time then, I'd love both more handling and more power!!

Every now and then i take little bikes out. I miss them.
But i must ride big to save my life......no shit - i will kill myself on a little one, im way too reckless.

[limbimtimwim]

Shit brakes is a worry. But otherwise if I wanted to win, I'd take the power.

It's much easier to pass on the straight than around the corner.

If I didn't want to win and have fun; take the handling.

Give it more time on the bike though, I think the picture would change, and the talented ones would end up faster on the scalpel instead of the pickaxe.