Is the shit one the MV and the excellent one the ZX10?Originally Posted by Sensei
This is true Imdying , I don't see the point of buy a Shit bike to replace a Excellent one then try to say it is good as alot do on here .
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Is the shit one the MV and the excellent one the ZX10?This is true Imdying , I don't see the point of buy a Shit bike to replace a Excellent one then try to say it is good as alot do on here .
Hardcore Biker
Kiwifruit,
There is only one sensible thing to do after you bin your Ten. Get another one!!!
May I recommend the NEW 2008 Zx10R (in black). Its suppossed to be alot like the 2005 ZX10R which, if you know your Kwaka's, means its got knife edge handling and one of the most insane motors on the planet with a top end that will scare the shit out of you every time.
The 2008 ZX10R is gonna be LOADS better to ride then an MV Agusta F4, not to mention cheaper to buy and cheaper to run. Dont forget its also gonna have MotoGP style traction control which wont really matter on the street but should do very well on the track. Here is a blurb on the new bike:
For the 2008 NINJA® ZX™-10R, Kawasaki engineers aimed for an ideal superbike with engine and chassis performance capable of satisfying professional racers, combined with top-notch streetbike qualities for mainstream riders. It’s a delicate balance, but these aren’t your average engineers. They’ve been directly involved in the development of every 600 and 1000cc supersport machine since the 2003 Ninja ZX-6R, plus Kawasaki’s factory Superbike racing efforts, so they have the know-how to deliver the goods.
The result is an exceptionally communicative machine that provides the clean two-way rider/machine dialog demanded by professional racers. Placing the ZX-10R in the racing crucible and applying lessons from that unforgiving environment resulted in an ideal balance to satisfy the most demanding of riders. Japanese Superbike racer Akira Yanagawa was the man pushing the engine and frame components to the limits of their performance in actual competition. Parts that met with Yanagawa’s approval were then tried on the production test bike, tweaked, retested on the racer and adjusted again. This process was repeated throughout the development cycle for the all-new 2008 Ninja ZX-10R.
At the heart of this capable package is a new engine tuned for even greater high-rpm performance, without sacrificing the stellar mid-range performance of its predecessor. Refinements include installing secondary fuel injectors, changing to oval throttle bodies and reshaping the intake ports. Intake flow was further enhanced with reshaped ram air ducts and a larger airbox that feeds into the new oval shaped velocity stacks. Exhaust efficiency was boosted with a new system that not only flows better but generates less noise and emissions. And to suit the enhanced power delivery, the transmission features new gear ratios for 1st, 4th and 5th gears along with an extra tooth on the rear sprocket. These changes make it essentially a race-ready engine with performance similar to Kawasaki’s factory Superbikes.
Professional riders know it’s useless to have the most power if you can’t get it to the ground. The 2008 Ninja ZX-10R features a new ignition system that assists with torque management by monitoring throttle opening, gear position and rate of RPM change, then retarding ignition timing to reduce torque when sudden unwanted RPM spikes are detected. This system doesn’t interfere with normal operation and still allows the engine to rev freely under typical riding conditions.
A superb engine deserves a superb chassis, and this is where the new ZX-10R really shines. To achieve the best-possible handling, Kawasaki used the lessons learned at the track to build a list of refinements including: changing the length of the steering tube and moving it 10mm forward, alleviating stress concentrations through subtle changes to the frame stampings (switching concave parts to convex pieces), increasing the wall thickness around the relocated swingarm pivot, adding ribbing on the interior of the pivot plate, and mounting a narrower, two-piece sub-frame to the main frame’s upper cross member.
With a fully-adjustable 43mm inverted fork and a new swingarm that uses pressed instead of cast beams, the ZX-10R’s track orientated suspension endows the chassis with better feedback. Refinements include adding a Diamond Like Carbon (DLC) coating to the fork tubes for less stiction and enhanced feedback, relocating the springs to the bottom of the fork for reduced oil frothing, and new settings that are better-suited for racetrack use. Rear suspension changes include dual (low and high-speed) compression damping on the fully-adjustable rear shock for better fine-tuning, a new mounting spot for the Uni-Trak® linkage and a re-shaped swingarm with a top-mounted brace.
No part was left untouched on the ZX-10R, even the wheels are new. Produced using a squeeze-casting process instead of the earlier gravity casting method, the new wheels are lighter, stiffer and more precise, to perfectly match the new chassis. The lower unsprung weight of the wheels helps improve suspension action and their reduced rotational inertia provides quicker steering and acceleration.
Braking duties are handled by radial mounted Tokico brake calipers squeezing new 310mm petal discs which are 10mm larger for 2008, and feature reduced thickness from 6 to 5.5mm for better heat dispersion. The rear is a 220mm petal disc squeezed by a single-piston caliper.
The designers didn’t rest when it came to styling either. Given great freedom with the 2008 ZX-10R, their efforts are illustrated in the clean design with superb fit and finish. While shaping the rear frame, tank and seat to offer improved ergonomics and increase the rider’s contact with the bike, they also refined its aerodynamics from a new front cowling to the sharp, minimalist tail cowl.
The result of these efforts is a slim and compact package with the presence befitting its Ninja name.
on the wagon
If i could get one i probably would
e mare libertas
You could have just linked to that, you know.
Also, bear in mind that the '08 10R will not be available here until March next year.
And did you ever consider that some might find it just a little boring riding the same model of bike from the same manufacturer for years on end?
There's so much more to motorcycling than Jap literbikes.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
e mare libertas
Don't worry, you'll have the MV in a ditch by AprilIf i could get one i probably would
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
on the wagon
OH MY!!Don't worry, you'll have the MV in a ditch by April
care to wager mr smartie pants?
e mare libertas
Hell no. It was a joke. The MV will handle at least as well as your ten did with the Ohlins. It ain't going into no ditches.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
r4q2
Sure it will!
Guest
MV's don't crash! They just depart the road when not ridden properly.
Taranaki Hardcore Biker
Amen to that, was out riding with the Ducati ownersclub the other weekend & there was a dude there on a Senna, sweet wheels
As mad as a spider, and twice as hairy !
Geriatric hoon
LOL You noticedThing about you is that you're an interesting character... whatever bike (in fact, not just restricted to bikes) you have at the time is the bestest/awesomest/whatever. You're a very loyal purchaserSorry, gotta share the love...
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Taranaki Hardcore Biker
Some have, cannot wait to see what Sensei's next bike isLOL You noticed
As mad as a spider, and twice as hairy !
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Who would care about being "cheap to run"? If you can afford an MV, one would like to hope you can earn enough to put fuel in the tank.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Off the wagon
Have you ever ridden an MV?
And it's than, not then.
Guest
Wasn't an older, shorter guy with MV leathers was it?Amen to that, was out riding with the Ducati ownersclub the other weekend & there was a dude there on a Senna, sweet wheels
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